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Miller: 



Baum: 

 Millers 





I also had a documented, written statement which 

 I demanded go in the record before I testified, and 

 I had my lawyer there and it was an awful long skir- 

 mish between them* 

 Yes, I read that. 



Before they would allow me to get on with this testi- 

 mony there was this awful long skirmish. Finally he 

 gave up and he said, "Okay, we will do this. We will 

 let this go in after you get through testifying." 



And I said, "Okay." 



So under those circumstances I testified. And 

 I wasn't mad, I was just having the fun of my life. 

 I was using human psychology, the thing that I had 

 learned. Fsther told me, when I was a kid, if I had 

 a bale of hay to roll and I had my hay hooks on it, 

 and I had it against the wall and it wouldn't roll, 

 "Don't break your back on it, Johnny. Take your 

 hay hooks out and put them on the other side of the 

 bale, and you 1 11 find it'll rolleasily." And this 

 iw what I was doing with the farmers, with the workers, 

 and with Senator LaFollette. I was rolling the bale 

 of hay from the side that I wanted to roll it on, 



