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not had appropriations to meet. Perhaps Mr. Campbell may be able to give us 

 some further information as to that. 



Mr. R. H. CAMPBELL. With regard to the matter brought up by Mr. Chown 

 as to the regulation of the Dominion Lands I am not exactly clear as to the point 

 Mr. Chown wished to bring forward. That is to say, he spoke of Forest Reserves 

 and regulations for Forest Reserves. Well the Forest Reserves are most of them 

 in the hands entirely of the Government, that is, held under timber licenses by 

 private parties, so that reglations which are established for Forest Reserves must 

 be made by the Government and carried out by it on its own lands. In regard to 

 the establishment of regulations, I may say that the Dominion Forestry Branch 

 did establish regulations during the past year for the Forest Reserves, and in these 

 regulations are provisions which relate to the disposal of the debris of operations 

 carried on in the reserve. 



So far as the timber limits held by private parties are concerned, there are 

 regulations which have been in the timber regulations of the Dominion for a con- 

 siderable time, but they have not been enforced. No special steps have been taken 

 to enforce them, nor are they being taken at the present time. There are several 

 reasons for this. In the first place, I may just go back for a moment or two to 

 explain. When I tood charge of the Dominion Forestry Branch I succeeded Mr. 

 Stewart. But when Mr. Stewart left a number of other men whom he had induced 

 to join that service found that they could get more lucrative or attractive positions 

 elsewhere. The result was that when I assumed office the Forestry Branch was 

 badly crippled for want of men. I do not know whether they objected to the new 

 head or not, but any way that was the state of affairs. Now, we are trying to 

 build up the staff again. I have succeeded in getting several good men, such as 

 Mr. Knechtel, who was with the Forest, Fish and Game Comission of New York for 

 some years, and did practically all the re-afforestation work in the Catskills and the 

 Adirondacks. He has become Inspector of Forest Reserves on our staff, and we 

 expect good work from him in that connection. We have also secured two addi- 

 tional men who are just completing their forestry course* We are still looking 

 for trained foresters, well-qualified men, and we hope to increase the staff as 

 rapidly as we can find men qualified to handle the work we have to do. 



In regard to putting restrictions upon the lumbermen or requiring particular 

 things from them regarding the disposal of debris from lumbering operations, 

 if the Government undertake to do that they must first know just exactly what 

 they should ask the lumberman to do. (Hear, Hear). For my own part I think 

 that at the present time we have to do it on our own reserves first, and show that the 

 handling of this debris can be properly done. Then we can tell the lumberman 

 how and at what cost it can be done. 



Secondly, we have to get the men capable of handling that work and these men 



