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air a good deal, as it is a question that is almost impossible to calculate. The burning 

 was done by the Forest Service. 



A Voice. In Minnesota Reserve was not that done by the lumbermen? 



Mr. PRICE. Yes, and the felling was done by them too. In the National 

 Forests the cutting is done by the lumbermen and the burning by the Government 

 rangers. In the east we are not sure whether we are practising the best kind of 

 forestry. We are new at the work and it is a very big work with many unsolved 

 problems. We, however, feel that we are doing better work than used to be done 

 in the forests of the United States. We are protecting them against fire and giving 

 them a tolerable certainty of a second crop at least as good as that which is now 

 growing. The best example that we have in the United States that practical 

 forestry is a good venture for the lumberman is that they can afford to practice on 

 the National Forests. Stumpage in these forests costs them just what it is worth. 

 It costs no less than stumpage on private lands, and the man needing to buy and 

 sell again has to pay all it is worth. But the lumbermen buy our stumpage, cut 

 the timber under our rules and regulations and are competing with its product, 

 sawing it out and putting it in competition with lumber from timber cut under the 

 ordinary conditions, and are coming back for more. That is a pretty good demon- 

 stration that forestry scientifically conducted, is at least not prohibitive in expense. 



MR. E. J. ZAVITZ. May I be allowed to offer something in the way of a 

 suggestion for the Committee on Resolutions? My idea is that education is the 

 great thing necessary regarding the forests as it is in everything else. We know that 

 the people of this and other provinces have been greatly benefited by Government 

 aid and education in the matter of dairy products and farming by experimental 

 farms, etc., which are greatly appreciated by the agricultural interests. My idea 

 was something along this line: 



Moved by Mr. Chown, and seconded by Mr. Southworth, 



That in view of the importance of the disposal of the debris in lumbering 

 operations, both for fire protection and in making re-afforestation possible, the 

 Dominion and Provincial Forestry Departments be urged to make experiments on 

 their reserves in the disposal of such debris, so that the result may be of use in 

 preparing regulations to govern general lumbering operations. 



In addition to this there might be established travelling exhibits, and lectures 

 could be given from time to time, while the establishment of a museum would be a 

 very valuable thing. A splendid example of this is to be seen in the Smithsonian 

 Museum at Washington, D.C., which shows the various classes of forest trees with 

 the various diseases that attack them, and a great deal of other information in 

 that line, all properly classified, so that the onlooker can get a great deal of infor- 

 i mation in a very .short time. I would leave this resolution in the hands of your 

 Resolution Committee if you think well. 



