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representative of the great International Paper Company. We all know that 

 company, and that is is one of the largest of its kind in the world. It has already 

 cut out nearly all the available timber in the United States, and now it is coming 

 to Quebec and to New Brunswick, and trying to get our pulpwood also. Hence it 

 is a serious question with us. 



I might as well say that the lumbermen of my Province are strongly opposed to 

 the depredations of the International Paper Company in our Province. What we 

 want is that only the mature saw logs should be cut, and the young spruce trees 

 allowed to grow. I made an inspection a short time ago of some lands cut, and 

 with all fairness to Mr. Bradley, I will say, it was a cut made by one of their job- 

 bers who was not under their special supervision, although partially so. I never in 

 all my life saw such depredation to the young spruce forest. I counted hundreds 

 and hundreds of them only eight and nine inches 'on the stump fast-growing 

 young spruce. What do you think of that? I do not say that this is the case all 

 over with regard to the operations of this company, but that I saw for myself, and 

 inspected fourteen or fifteen yards of the same kind of cutting. 



Mr. Bradley says fourteen inches breast high, but he reserves a large portion 

 of the country from that regulation, such as side hills where the timber may blow 

 down, or is liable to be burned. Pulp men say in our Province that one half of 

 the country will not produce saw logs. I dispute that. I have been thirty- 

 seven years in the Crown Lands Department of New Brunswick, and have run 

 against the lumbermen in the past and present, and can speak knowingly of the 

 conditions of our Province, and I know when they say that only half the Province is 

 pulpwood, I say no, it is about one-tenth burnt or spruce land, and no more. We 

 have no objection to the International Paper Company or any other Company cut- 

 ting everything down in the burnt land, but what we do want in New Brunswick 

 is what the lumber people never want, and that is that the mature saw logs should 

 be cut and nothing else. 



That is the point I want to make, Mr. President. Before closing, however, I 

 must say a good word for the International Paper Company. They are doing a 

 fine work in forest protection and utilising the logs the lumbermen would not take 

 away. But they are there to make money and take everything they can get. 

 They are not there for their health. They have taken all the lumber they could get 

 in the United States, and now they are invading the eastern townships of Quebec, 

 and I feel sure that the farmers of the eastern townships in time to come will regret 

 their foolishness in cutting down their young spruce for the International and other 

 great corporations. (Applause). 



Dr. FERNOW. I think that these papers need a much fuller discussion than 

 we can give them here. I will refer to one statement of Mr. Stewart, in which he 

 pointed out that a timber famine is threatening the world. Just before leaving 



