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adopted and I made a note of it in the report which, we sent to the Minister 

 was to pay men who are worth the money $75 a month and find them in 

 food and shelter. At each shelter place, for every two men we have 12 iron 

 buckets, 12 shovels, and 12 axes all ready handled, so that when a fire occurs 

 they have something t^ work with. (Hear, hear.) The result of this has 

 been that we have had no fires. (Hear, hear.) 



Mr. WHITE : So far as the remuneration of the fire rangers is concerned, 

 it must be remembered that in licensed territory we have an interest, at the 

 outside, of $2 a thousand I put it at $1.50, for probably that would be the 

 average while the lumberman has an interest of $8 or $10 a thousand. Now, 

 it might be worth his while to consider why he should not increase the 

 remuneration in view of the greater protection he has received. (Laughter.) 



Mr. CHARLTON : I certainly meant that the Department should apply 

 that rule to their own lands to the unlicensed lands. 



Mr. WHITE : And to the licensed lands too, I suppose ? 



Mr. CHARLTON: Yes. (Laughter.) I think Mr. White agrees with me 

 in that. 



Mr. WHITE : Yes. 



Mr. THOS. SOUTHWORTH : I presume Mr. White regards his statement 

 of the assets of the Province in timber and the pulp wood wealth of the north 

 country, as a possible rather than probable asset so far as the Provincial 

 revenue is concerned. The pulp wood is almost entirely on land that, as he 

 states, is eminently suitable for agricultural purposes ; and it is altogether 

 probable that the insistent demand for lands for settlement will require the 

 land to be given over to the settlers. So far, it has not been the practice or 

 the policy of the Government of this Province to take the timber off the land 

 before giving it to the settler. It has been the case with the pine, but so far 

 that has not been extended to the spruce. If this is done it will be very diffi- 

 cult to induce settlement in that country, because the settlers would be 

 deprived of the assistance they would get from the sale of the timber. Hence 

 I presume that Mr. White does not- regard this spruce as a realizable asset 

 or even a probable asset so far as the Provincial revenue is concerned. 



Mr. LITTLE : It is a very fine asset one of the finest assets we have in 

 America. 



Mr. WHITE: My answer to that is that I said the Province has an asset. 

 Even if a settler takes it up, the money will be there. It is wealth to the 

 Province created by him, but I apprehend that all that territory will not be 

 taken up for settlement, and I apprehend that we will get a good deal more 

 than the price I have placed upon it, 75 cents a cord. We shall probably get, 



