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that I hope they will all learn, and that is to try to make- the most of their 

 assets from year to year. They have an enormous asset here, and I think to- 

 day they are mating as much out of it as it is possible for the Province to 

 make without getting the whole lumber trade into rebellion, and perhaps 

 leading them into a bad financial state. I think they have been very wise in 

 administering their assets in the way they have, and we in Quebec have 

 learned something of late years by refusing to sell any more of our public 

 lands. In fact, for many years the Province of Quebec has advertised no 

 limits for sale. In that way we have been taking a leaf out of the book of 

 the Province of Ontario. It is a great pleasure to come up and hear a paper 

 such as Mr. White has read to us, because I think that as we come west we 

 learn more on this subject, perhaps, than we can in the east, where we are 

 more conservative and go more slowly. In Ontario I think they have been 

 very radical in the changes made, but being more radical means a much 

 larger revenue, and I think the lumbermen have paid it willingly because 

 they have been more able to do so. I am sure this meeting thanks Mr. White 

 very heartily for his paper. 



THE PRESIDENT : The lumbermen pay $10 for the privilege of cutting and 

 $2 more when the timber is cut. (Laughter.) 



Mr. PRICE : They are more liberal than I took them to be. 



Mr. LITTLE : I think this Province is to be congratulated in another 

 direction, and that is, in establishing a Forestry School. (Hear, hear.) I 

 think it is far in advance in that respect. We in Quebec have the right to 

 feel that we have been moving forward in one matter, and that is in the 

 establishment and observance of "Arbor Day." The Province of Quebec 

 was one of the first Provinces or States in America to establish Arbor Day, 

 and thus interest young people in forestry. 



Mr. EJSTECHTEL : I have been very much interested in the able paper Mr. 

 White has read. It shows that he is certainly very familar with the subject 

 he discussed. I understood from his paper that in Ontario the Crown Lands 

 Department charge $5 per square mile as ground rent; that the dues charged 

 are $2 per thousand feet, board measure ; that bids are received ; and that for 

 a certain tract of timber $10 per thousand feet was received as a bid. Am I 

 right? 



Mr. WHITE : As a matter of fact the berth was, I think, 28 miles in area. 

 It is known as berth 22, range 10, N.E. of Sault Ste. Marie, and it was sold 

 for $10.52 bonus, and $2 fees. Those are the exact figures. 



Mr. KNECHTEL : In giving permission to cut this timber, is the licensee 

 permitted only to take trees of a certain diameter limit, or is he permitted to 

 take everything that is merchantable? 



