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the five or six years I have been with the Association, I think, it is not fair 

 to the lumbermen who are with us, it is not fair to the people who support us, 

 it is not fair to the public of Canada, or I think to ourselves, that this Asso- 

 ciation should be tied up in the way it is. Frankly I see no way out of the 

 difficulty, because the most competent men for the administration of this 

 Association and for the editing of a Forestry Journal are the men who are 

 professionally interested in forestry ; that is, men who in one way or another 

 are working for a Government, either Provincial or Federal. I mean they 

 are the men who have the greatest knowledge and are best posted . But whilst 

 we Government employees are doing this work we can never hope that this 

 Association will reach the people of Canada. That is my plain view. 

 (Applause.) 



Mr. G. Y. CHOWN : I would just like to follow up what Mr. Macoun 

 has so well said regarding the disability under which we labour as an Asso- 

 ciation through the large number of the important men in it who are Gov- 

 ernment officials. I believe that what we want is a paid Secretary, who 

 shall be a trained forester, and a man of sufficient standing to carry this 

 Association throughout all the Provinces. I came up to this meeting of 

 the Association with a deep feeling of despondency. We have been working 

 here for over ten years. I have been here for eight years and what have 

 we done? What have we really accomplished? What is this Association 

 doing? We meet each year; we have a pleasant time; we get to know one 

 another, we have met some friends; but what practical result has the Asso- 

 ciation accomplished? Dr. Fernow has brought before us the thought that 

 the forest should be considered as a crop to be developed from year to year. 

 We have had that same idea presented every year. Have we got any one 

 of our Governments in the Dominion to look upon it as a crop? Yesterday 

 the head man of the Ontario Government, Mr. White, told us plainly that 

 he had never even made an estimate of the increment of growth for the Pro- 

 vince of Ontario ; that he balanced the annual loss from fire against the incre- 

 ment and let it go at that. Here we have been working as a Forestry Asso- 

 ciation for ten years, and the leading man in the leading Province has not 

 even got to the point where he wants to find out what we have got or the 

 rate at which it is growing. The second point Dr. Fernow made was segre- 

 gationwe were to separate our farm lands from our forest lands. Have 

 we a single bit of legislation on that point? Is there one Province that has 

 made the necessary survey so that it will know? I understand that in New 

 runswick they are beginning to classify the land, and that is the one Pro- 

 nnce, so far as I am aware, that has made any attempt to separate farm 

 from forest lands. Here we go on and talk about segregation, but 

 what are we accomplishing? 



Mr. WHITE: Has not Ontario made the attempt to separate the forest 

 lands from the agricultural lands? 



Mr. CHOWN : By legislation ? 



