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out, especially in the northern portions of the Province of Ontario, capable 

 lecturers who will interest the people and thereby get them in sympathy 

 with the movement that this Association is carrying on, in a more scientific 

 and technical fashion. (Applause). 



Mr. CAMPBELL : Regarding the lectures which greatly helped the work 

 of the Hon. Mr. Whipple, in New York State, I wish to state that, the main 

 part of the lecturing was done by Mr. Knechtel, who was then the Forester 

 for the New York State Forestry, Fish and Game Commission, and who 

 is now in the employ of the Dominion Government, and who will do similar 

 work for this country. (Applause). The New York Commission wants to 

 get him back again, but I am determined not to let him go. 



Mr. WHITE : I wish to raise a point for your consideration. I under- 

 stood that the discussion was to be confined to the paper read by Dr. Fer- 

 now. Now, we have drifted off into the education work of the Association, 

 what is being done in Canada and what is being done in various other 

 countries. We are not discussing this paper at all. We have not even 

 touched it. With all deference to those who have discussed the matter, if 

 we are going to conduct our business in an orderly way, and use our time 

 valuably, we ought to discuss an important paper like this. 



The PRESIDENT: Do you wish to discuss it? 



Mr. WHITE : I think the discussion should be confined to the paper 

 until we get through with it. There are people here prepared to discuss it. 



The PRESIDENT: Senator Edwards, do you wish to discuss the paper? 

 Senator EDWARDS : Not now. I will refer to it later on. 



The PRESIDENT : Then I will be found fault with later on for allowing you 

 to discuss the paper when some other paper is under discussion. (Laughter). 

 I have allowed a certain amount of latitude because I felt that all that has 

 been said has been in the interests of the work that we are here for. 

 (Applause). I do not wish to enforce parliamentary rules. I feel that we 

 are not bound down by such rules here, but that in a free-and-easy way we 

 should advance the interests of Forestry. Consequently I have allowed 

 considerable laxity along that line. Now, while I have been speaking that 

 way, I may say that I greatly appreciate what has been said by some of the 

 speakers. Something has been said about the appointment of a secretary 

 in connection with this Association because I had reference to the great 

 work that Mr. Evans has done in connection with the Fish and Game Asso- 

 ciation, down through the Province of Nova Scotia. He has gone through 

 there and stirred up the people so that they have a greater respect for that 

 valuable asset, than they had before he came down to visit us. If we had 

 such a secretary in connection with this Association, I feel that he could 



