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Ontario. Government forest nurseries situated at certain of these points 

 will be able to supply planting material to owners anxious to replant waste 

 land. 



The policy of putting these lands under forest management has many 

 arguments in its favour. It will pay as a financial investment, assist in 

 insuring a wood supply, protect the headwaters of streams, provide breed- 

 ing ground for wild game, provide object lessons in forestry and prevent 

 citizens from developing under conditions which can only ena in failure. 



THE PRESIDENT : As we have a large number of papers yet, we will be 

 unable to open this one for discussion just yet; but if any question has arisen 

 during the reading of Mr. Zavitz's paper we will allow you to ask it. 



MR. STEWART : I would like to ask Mr. Zavitz how he proposes to deal 

 with thinnings. What distance apart do you intend planting? I was not 

 here during the first part of your paper. 



MR. ZAVITZ : The cost of planting is based on planting the trees five feet 

 apart each way. 



MR. STEWART : I noticed in Germany that they thinned twice, and that 

 what they took out was of considerable value. 



MR. ZAVITZ : I estimated the value of thinnigs at twenty-five per cert, of 

 their net value. 



MR. STEWART : Is it not necessary to have the trees planted near together 

 in order to have natural pruning? 



PROF. FERNOW : Yes, five feet apart is as wide as one would allow. I 

 think four feet apart would be better. It is more expensive, but the expense 

 is apt to be justified by the result. 



THE PRESIDENT : I will now call upon M. J. B. Miller, Vice-President of 

 the Canadian Lumbermen's Asosciation, to address us. 



MR. MILLER : Mr. President, Gentlemen, It is not my intention to read 

 a paper or make a lengthy address. It was my hope that Mr. Gordon Edwards, 

 our President, would be here to represent our Association, but he was called 

 over to England, and in consequence is not with us. However, I see the 

 Honourable W. C. Edwards here, and I am going to ask him to have the most 

 to say in regard to the lumberman's view of forestry. Speaking for the 

 Ontario lumbermen particularly, because it is with Ontario that I have most 

 to do, we feel that a good deal of the remedy with regard to the waste of 

 timber lies with the Government. In the past they have made a very serious 

 error, to my mind, in opening up lands which were totally unfit for agricul- 



