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SENATOR EDWARDS: No, sir; the men couldn't shoot one partridge. 

 They carried guns with them, and never saw a bird the whole length. 



Mr. WHITE : Would you mind telling me the name of the river? 



SENATOR EDWARDS : I will tell you the name of the river, Mr. White ; 

 I will tell you how these gentlemen of the Dominion Survey parties explored. 

 I don't know how Mr. White's men explored. Every practical lumberman 

 knows that along the verge of the streams and lakes there is lots of timber. 

 (Hear, hear.) These gentlemen paddled, with nice supplies of every good 

 equipment, and they saw the timber on the two sides ; they took the area of 

 the whole country and multiplied it by what is on the streams ; that is the 

 way it was done. (Laughter.) Now, I cannot say that of Mr. White's 

 friends; I won't say it, either. 



The SECRETARY : The Geological Survey men don't do the multiplying. 



It is some of the people who read their reports who do the multiplying. 



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SENATOR EDWARDS : What I wish to emphasize is that I know as a matter 

 of fact that there are many very misleading statements as to the timber sup- 

 ply of Canada ; that we have not got the timber that we are supposed to have. 



Mr. LITTLE : We are living in a Fool's Paradise. 



SENATOR EDWARDS : There is no doubt about it (laughter) and I 

 humbly believe that the best thing we can do is to take stock and find out 

 exactly where we stand -(hear, hear and applause) and pursue the policy 

 in the future which will best serve the interests of Canada in the conserv- 

 ation of our timber, and in the conservation of the many natural resources 

 which Canada has, perhaps in greater abundance than many of the countries 

 of the world. I thank you for your kind attention. (Laughter and applause.) 



THE PRESIDENT : We will have to hurry along with the papers, and 

 then take up the discussion. I will now call upon Mr. Pdordan to read his 

 paper. 



Mr. CARL BJORDAN, of the Kiordan Paper Mills Company, and represent- 

 ing the Canadian Manufacturers' Association, said, It is rather a fortunate 

 thing that none of us paper manufacturers were called on a few years ago 

 for a statement of our attitude towards conservative forestry methods, 

 because I don't believe we had one. 



Mr. LITTLE : There is no law against it. You could have come forward 

 25 or 30 years ago if you had wanted to. 



Mr. RIORDAN then read the following paper : 



