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trees has been settled, not only in the old country, but on this continent, suf- 

 ficiently well for our present requirements. For instance, we have Mr. 

 Wilson, who is one of those "theoretical" or unpractical foresters. You heard 

 his paper, and you have a fair idea of how "unpractical" he is. Well, he has 

 measured and counted the rings of thousands of logs to find out the rate of 

 growth for himself. 



Referring back to Mr. Zavitz's estimate of value I may be responsible for 

 the statement regarding two hundred eighteen-inch trees per acre under cer- 

 tain conditions. As a matter of fact, in a grove 60 years old left to itself you 

 will find two hundred; but not eighteen-inch trees. Only by the application 

 of the knowledge of a forester could you secure two hundred eighteen-inch 

 trees in 60 years. In nature you cannot. (Applause.) 



Another very interesting theory of the Senator, we foresters 

 have long ago exploded, is that by merely cutting the old timber of 

 large sizes you perpetuate the forest. The very opposite is true. The fewer 

 trees you take away the longer it will take you to perpetuate the forest. That 

 is a technical question, of course. It depends entirely on how your forest 

 is composed; what you may do in one case you may not do in the other. 

 There is a difference between the light and shade demanding requirements of 

 the different species. If you have the light demanding pines and balsam 

 and spruce together, and if you cut out only the pine of heavy sizes, it will 

 not take very long before you have no white pine, because under the shade of 

 the spruce and balsam the young pines would all die. This is a technical 

 question that comes in only because the Senator made the statement, and I 

 wanted to show that his theory is entirely wrong. Perhaps I have not added 

 anything to the discussion, but at least I did not want to be quoted as an 

 authority on many things I had not said. (Laughter.) 



SENATOR EDWARDS : Some day I will ask my friend to come for a visit 

 in the woods and have his statement disproved regarding the perpetuation of 

 the forest, and mine absolutely proved to be true in so far as my statement is 

 concerned. 



Dr. FERNOW: Excuse me; I meant to add just to advertise our School 

 of Forestry that the first employment that my greenhorns secured last sum- 

 mer 



SENATOR EDWARDS : Don't use that term ; that is improper. 



PROF. FERNOW : No ; I used that term when I recommended them to the 

 lumber company that employed them. They were greenhorns; they had 

 never been in the woods before ; and now I have on file a letter in which 

 the lumber company said : "We could not have had such good work done by 

 any timber logger or any practical man." (Applause.) 



