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plause.) I do not claim we, mill owners, are doing the most we can for the 

 Canadian people, or have in the past done as much as we should, but we 

 have done very much more than the rossing mills have done. All one has 

 to do is to visit the Miramichi and see the two rossing mills running there, 

 and compare them with any saw mill or the one-gang mill of the Miramichi 

 Lumber Company operating on the other side of the river. They will 

 readily see which gives the greatest amount of employment, and expends 

 the most wages in the district. Mr. Oak says, What will become of us if we 

 stop exporting pulp wood? What did we do before the International 

 Paper Company came to New Brunswick? There was more money ex- 

 pended on the Miramichi by William Richards and other companies manu- 

 facturing lumber before Mr. Oak or the International Paper Company 

 came there than now, and one of the disasters to that part of the country 

 was when they came and attempted to ross wood and send it away. (Ap- 

 plause.) What was expected by every one when these people came was 

 that they would not attempt to ross wood and send it away, but would es- 

 tablish pulp and paper industries. Great hopes were entertained, and the 

 people loked forward to American capital coming in: "Let the American 

 capital come in, and we will see what they will do for us," was the saying. 

 I am not going to depreciate the Americans, but I do say this: American 

 capitalists make money as quickly as they can money is their king. To 

 .get the greatest amount of money in the shortest time, they want to come 

 over here and take our natural resources and turn them into money for 

 the American people, rather than have them conserved for the permanent 

 benefit of the Canadian people; to make our country prosper and flourish 

 as we would wish. Can we, as patriotic citizens, stand idly by and see our 

 raw material going across to support 77,500 people in the United States? 

 The work required to manufacture this raw material should be available to 

 the people of Canada, either Quebec, Ontario or New Brunswick. We 

 should not confine our interests to the Province of New Brunswick; in this 

 discussion we should take Canada from the Atlantic to the Pacific. I ask 

 you to consider what the International Paper Company said would be the 

 result if we took away from them the wood they need for the operation of 

 their mills. 



Mr. Snowball referred to Mr. Sifton's estimate of thirty years as the 

 time required to use up all timber in the United States. That being so, 

 why should United States citizens be allowed to come over to Canada to 

 take Canadian resources? (Hear, hear.) Canadians should not look upon 

 an asset as merely worth so much, or as bringing in a certain amount of 

 capital, or that capital might be brought in for the buying up of this or 

 that industry. There was a danger that large aggregations of capital 

 would endeavor to influence Legislatures and direct legislation, as they had 

 In the United States. The effort to get control of the Long Sault Rapids 

 was a case in point. Those on the Commission of Conservation knew the 

 length to which these people were prepared to go to attain their ends. Mr. 

 Oak had referred to sawing down trees as a method of conserving timber, 

 and when at this point in his paper he had turned his eyes in his (Mr. 

 Snowball's) direction. Possibly Mr. Oak thought he had taught them how 

 to conduct woods operations. In reply to that he would say that when 



