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he was a child fifteen years of age (and there were gentlemen in the audi- 

 ence who knew this very well) they were felling trees with the saw on the 

 Tabusintac, Tracadie, Dungarvon, and Renous Rivers. All trees were 

 cut with the saw, and as close to the ground as possible. (Hear, hear. ) 



In the course of his argument, Mr. Oak has stated that it would be 

 impossible to manufacture wood pulp in New Brunswick. When in the 

 Ottawa Valley recently he (Mr. Snowball) had the pleasure of visiting 

 the McLaren mills at Buckingham, where they had ten or twelve machines 

 making ground wood pulp by water power. This was shipped to different 

 places in Canada and the United States, and combined with a certain 

 amount of sulphite pulp and made into paper. At other points on the 

 Ottawa there were sulphite pulp mills run by steam, supplying the other 

 part of this combination. The average wages per ton of pulp he found was 

 $5.06. What he held was that that sum and the sum required to lay the 

 pulp wood down at the mill should be kept in Canada to give employment 

 to Canadian labor, instead of allowing it to cross the line to keep up 

 United States factories. A great many of the boys from the Miramichi, 

 as well as from other sections, were crossing to the United States to help 

 make pulp and paper, because the mills were there. But these young men 

 of brawn and brains would come back to make pulp and paper at home, if 

 there were mills in Canada for them to work in. (Applause.) If sulphite 

 pulp could be made by steam power in Ontario, where they had to freight 

 their coal from the United States or the Maritime Provinces, surely it could 

 be made in the Maritime Provinces where the coal was produced. 



The Chairman (Senator Edwards) asked at this juncture if there was 

 not a limitation to the proportion of sulphite that might be used. 



Mr. Snowball said he was about to deal with. that. Ontario made 

 ground wood pulp in one place and sulphite pulp in another, and these were 

 shipped to a common point and made into paper. New Brunswick could 

 have the ground wood pulp made at Grand Falls, where Mr. Oak admitted 

 there was ample power and an unlimited supply of spruce. Sulphite pulp 

 could be made at Chatham or Fredericton and the two kinds of pulp could 

 be brought together at St. John or some other point and made into paper 

 for home use and shipped to the United States and abroad. The paper 

 mills of the United States did not sell all the paper they made in their 

 own country. During a period of seven months they shipped $850,000 

 worth of "news" paper manufactured from Canadian pulp wood to the 

 British Isles. Canada should be supplying that market with paper made 

 in Canada from Canadian wood. (Hear, hear.) 



Mr. Snowball continued: The kraft paper mill on the Miramichi is 

 making wrapping paper with only a small drain on the forest only two 

 and a half to three million feet of small logs, and slabs from mills, and 

 employing about 125 men all the year around. What we want is not more 

 big industries, employing five or six hundred men; if we get an industry 

 employing fifty or sixty men all the year around, that is what we want, and 

 that is what will be of the greatest benefit to the country. Some of our 

 towns and Boards of Trade are making great efforts to secure these large 

 industries; but if we can secure numerous small industries and not have all 

 our eggs in one basket, it would be far better for our country. 



