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There is just one mistake Mr. Oak made, and I do not think he was 

 misleading you whatever. He refers to the cost of coal at $4.50 per ton. 

 He was perfectly justified in stating that, but that is the price of screened 

 coal of the best quality from Sydney. On the Miramichi it does not cost 

 the mills that much for coal. They use the slack coal, and it costs $1.85 

 per ton delivered on the wharf at Chatham. It makes a vast difference 

 whether your coal costs you $4.50 or $1.85 in considering this question. 



I do not want to take up any more time in discussing this matter. I 

 will just read for one moment what has been said by Mr. J. R. Mann, 

 of Chicago, who headed the investigating committee into the paper indus- 

 stry. Mr. Mann said: 



"In my opinion it is absolutely necessary that we either get from 

 Canada the right of the free export of spruce wood or that our Gov- 

 ernment itself enter upon the project of raising spruce forests. If 

 Canada should succeed in forcing the newspaper mills into the Do- 

 minion, it would result undoubtedly in greatly increasing the price of 

 print paper and probably Canada would then lay an export duty on 

 print paper. It looks to me as if Canada had the upper hand in the 

 matter, and, moreover, it looks as if we were on the verge of a great 

 tariff war with the Dominion. It is possible if Canada is not enticed 

 by the new tariff, that by next March we will have prices soaring so 

 high that users of paper will feel it exceedingly more than they have 

 yet." 



I quote now from the Montreal Star of September 29th, 1909, con- 

 cerning the above: 



"If there has been any doubt in Canada as to what we should do, 

 surely these frank utterances will dispel it. We know now on the tes- 

 timony of our customers that we hold the "high card." There is no 

 dispute as to the facts, but only as to the manner in which they should 

 affect our action. We can have the pulp business, and eventually the 

 paper business of this continent by pursuing a common-sense policy 

 towards the matter; and the first step in that program is to abso- 

 ultely prohibit the future exportation from Crown lands of unmanu- 

 factured timber, be it pulp wood or not. Our forests we should treat as 

 a store house of raw material on which Canadian labor and capital can 

 employ themselves, and what we cannot manufacture for our own 

 use and for sale abroad, we can conserve for our children and for our 

 children's children." 



That is all I have to say so far as pulp wood is concerned. I think, as 

 Canadians, we should not look to what the results might be for one month 

 or two months, if the prohibition were imposed, because the Government 

 can regulate that. The Government has the right in the leases to cancel 

 for certain causes, and any Government that would pass a law prohibiting 

 the export would also make provisions which would protect the people of 

 this country. The concerns holding timber lands would be bound to oper- 

 ate them to the same extent as when operations are carried on for saw mills. 

 If we had that provision we need not fear at all the bogey held out by Mr. 



