1. '.Then our Ir.at report was sent in, for example, we 

 had different places picked out where trees were hanging full 

 of rjood thrifty cones and where we apparently had ample 

 chances to collect more oood than ne reported, "but it was too 

 ocrly to toll that tho seed was affected by worns. '.Then we 

 started to collect need wo found thet practically all of the 

 Douglas ?ir and about 90 percent of the Sugar Pine was af- 

 fected by TTorms. 



2. We ccnnot plan on the fire r.ecson and in tro out of 

 the last four seasons the nost of the seed dropped out while 

 we wore fighting fires. 



3. The contract prices for collecting seod in this 

 locality ere too low to conpttt* with other >rk. The seed 

 collecting season opons rhon evory good raen ie busy and oen- 

 not stop for a short job. 



We can not give accurr.te estimates on ?ojra 977 un- 

 less the seed crop can be examined by soneone who can tell 

 whether it will be affected by ',7orms, end plans are made to 

 have it collected by Forest Officers who do not have to stop 

 and fi.jht fire every tine the alarm is ~iven. It seems to 

 me that this subject would be a good one to discuss in "The 

 Tahoe," r.nd this explanation is wade with the hopes that it 

 will start a discussion that will ^ive us more information 

 about coed collecting and reports." 



This is a subject thet *?ill boar discussion at the 

 ranker meeting. This office perhaps is to blame in asking 

 for seed reports so early this year, and this matter fill be 

 remedied hereafter. The rays and means of collecting seed 

 is as yet an open question. In this connection attention is 

 celled to XT. Sutcliffe's article in this issue. By trying 

 all the methods of seed collecting that he could thlnlz of 

 he has acruired experience that will be valuable to him here 

 after. 



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