smaller Porosto and on a Forest of this size it would put 

 too much work or. tho Supervisors office. If you havo larger 

 districts you would hfvo each rancor as a supervisor to handle 

 the problems that come up. On a small- Forest the Supervisor 

 D easily handle this work in his office. 



MERRILL: What Mr. Kelley has stated is very true. 

 The size of tho district depends very much on topographic 

 conditions and while it seems that is rroing to make an end- 

 less amount of work for tho supervisor, there lo a lot of 

 little matters that oould bo hrndled by a ranker competent 

 to do tho work and I believe the better plan la for each 

 district ranker to divide his district into units and tho 

 fljonernl correspondence pass through his hands. On the east 

 side of the mountains Mr. Babbitt *s scheme would be ideal. 

 On this side there should be men enough to have one str.tloned 

 in nearly ovory town. If we had a man stationed in each 

 town he could do the work without any additional expense. 

 Thsre is a tendency for the district ranger when ho gots out 

 to make the trip and Jump bach tho sa?i day and it seemo to 

 me that If the district rm~er oould havo good hoacl quarters 

 and men enough he could do a great deal of work without 

 additional expense. I heartily endorse Mr. Babbitt's plan. 



SIVERTSON: We have tried our larger dictricts on 

 this Forest, although we have not tried them out under this 

 now management spoken of, but I Imow on the larger districts, 

 In traveling around it has been necessary for us to stop at 

 road houses where it eats into the ealp.ry pretty hard. In 

 sorao parts of the Porest it will cost more than a day's 

 salary to stay over nijht. There are some Iilnds of work 

 that must be put up to" tho district ranger. Sorao non oro not 

 capable of doing tho work - especially now raon. You will 

 find one that is and nine that are not. It seems to me thrt 

 it would be an injustice to give a ranker a larger district 

 to handle without increasinpThis salary. I have hoard 

 assistant rangers say, and very truthfully, thet they don't 

 rant a district, that thoy get tho same salrry as the 

 district rr-ngor and do not have the expenses. If the 

 districts vero smaller every rian would bo getting tho same 

 salary, but if the districts are larger the district ranger 

 should havo more salary. 



GALLAHER: If every ranker is going to be a 

 oeparc.te unit how are wo ^oin^ to weld those units together? 



3IGELOW: I believe that the district rp.npror in the 

 field, on tho ground ri r -ht in touch v/lth the r.-ion is bettor 

 than men in tho Supervisor's office in Hove da City. I thlnlc 

 that men on the ground that fool the pulse of every 

 man every day are nocoosary on e forest as big as this. The 

 Supervisor cannot hold the men like the raari on the ground can. 



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