WILSON: I think the district ranger will be better 

 able to "ip.ke intelligent reports. If a mining claim is to be 

 examined you expect a report equal to a raining expert one* the 

 same is true rlth every other report a man must learn to 

 'cnov.- hov? to inc.':e his reports, rhich a now man cannot do on 

 account of inexperience. 



"IEL3IG: I think that if the assistant ranker had 

 to look aftor all the correspondence that a district ranger 

 has to do ho v:vuld not be as efficient as ho is now. 



BA3BITT: Under the plan I have su^ested an 

 assistant could 30 to a fire rith tho assurance that supplies 

 ant? men would be sent by the District Ranker. 



HEPT.IIL: I agree with i!r. Babbitt. The District 

 Hanger is familiar vith his district and vfton a fire oonmonces 

 an assistant rancor ".nows that the district ranker v,m /jet 

 thoro eventually and he v.orlis with a better heart and more 

 energy. 



HUADLEY: If we can jet hold of the facts in th 

 matter rnd can shov from facts thet it means more efficient 

 nrnagorient of the ?orest to pay a man in his orn district you 

 can win the District Forester over to a plan of that kind. 

 It is a question of more efficient management . We have not 

 paid ran^rs expenses in their own districts booruse It Tmo 

 believed to bo more efficient management. 



Scientific management is an old old thing. It is 

 just a now fen-led term for an expression of the unrest and 

 inquiries for a c'.esire of improvement that is as old as the 

 world itself. Its theory is t-j discover means to increase 

 efficiency anc 1 . economy. Scientific management is based on 

 knowledge. The general theory of the application of r hr.t we 

 know as 'Scientific Management to our business of National 

 ?orests is not as complicated, as difficult, es we roirtfit 

 think it to be. The actual working out of Scientific 

 Mana Cement and improving methods is nofiinr more or less 

 thPn this. It can bo illustrated. Our business is 

 managing National Forests. These resources are owned by 

 tho public. V/e are employed to produce certain effects 

 to produce certain results. The public needs to havo the 

 mature timber protected from fire^ It needs to have mature 

 timber so cut thr.t it trill reproduce itself. It is our 

 business to get those results. To get those results costs 

 the public certain things chiefly administration of the 

 National ?oreits. Those results that v;e get for the public 

 must be needer more then the money for administration of tho 

 business of the public. If it costs more to produce the 

 results than the results are worth - thai; is poor mana^encnt. 

 If we produce more than the administration cost - that is 

 good management. 



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