We want to remernbor thr.t ovory effort we put forth 

 should have an object. We should not spend any time or 

 money that has not some definite object in viev:. The only 

 v;&y v;e cnn >novr the relation of these things is by hr.rmonlzinpf 

 our results rnd the cost of ec.cn line of effort. Then ao 

 these results ure rorth more to the public than tho cost of 

 ctin<r those results our management is <>ood management. If 

 :.; .ens to be tho othur rey'it is "3U3 n mana Cement. Lvory 

 tirao *.o ct n reduce the cost or produce results re hr.ve our 



i~o? r 4 ont more value ble. . : ivery tine v:e cm produce ^rer.ter 

 results rith leos cost, then v?e have made our management more 

 vr.lucble. '.Then ro laior thft re have found rnd adopted tho 

 or.e best v/c.y tnr*. can put that into operation, ^e hcve made 

 our nanr ^omont raore valuable. 



PHATT: Why io It advisable to undertake costly 

 eilvical experiments vrithout icnowin'; absolutely What the 

 net result rill be. 



HZADLEY: That is a business chance. It is up to 

 us to estimate vhethor thore is a fjooc 1 chance for the 

 investment . 



DUBOIS: At the orosent time the national Forests 

 in California are producing only about 50 percent of their 

 capacity. 



At the present time re are after roeulte 

 v:ith tho money we have. \!e f*ant more results. V/e do not have 

 half tho results thrt re ou~ht to have. V/e rant moro 

 protective results. I don't believe rre have 3o percent of the 

 rosults we ou~ht to have with tho money ve have. 



It is obvious that conditions on the Trhoo 

 cill not fit the Eldorado and I su^-^est that x?e put it up 

 to the force on each ?orest and rret the concensus of opinion 

 as to whether a lar^e or snail district is best. 



HLADLI7Y: I surest that re assume thct if it means 

 more efficiency and more economy vre put the question of 

 Icrp-or districts; consolidation of districts; present districts 

 end the system of a district for ecch man. 



(it rras voted by tho Lldorado men that 1he present 

 districts on that ?orest are satisfactory. After considerable 

 discussion by different members of the Trhoe Forest the 

 question was dropped.) 



