We had four tlmoa as raaoh money to spend this year 

 as last end with four times as much monoy we had 18 tines the 

 protection. 



Id* not "believe re should turn our attention to 

 anything olse until our Class A fires are reduced at least 

 80 percent . 'Then re .^et a record of that sort we rill con- 

 sider it is our Job to maintain it. We have a lon^ ways to 

 go before we get to that. Pretty nearly every ?orest hcs a 

 protective plan alon^ the lines of the Tc.hoe & El Dorado, 

 They don't rork well enough. We have -jot to make our fire 

 plans again and figure out the causes of each fire this year. 

 If we can eliminate the causes so much the better. In view of 

 the experience of this year re have sot to make a plan to 

 cover all causes. The main point that I want to ma'ce is the 

 lesson that re must drar from each individual fire and a 

 revision of the plan which permitted that Individual fire. 



PRATT: It appears to me that we must have two 

 sets of plans. An ideal plan which may or may not be written 

 down and a secondary plan which should be written down and 

 used as a working plan for the season* There is a difference 

 of opinion in this regard, but the nctin thin is that evory 

 district render should have an ideal plan in his head and get 

 that down each year so that it will r-ork. The secondary plan 

 nuet contain as much as possible information that will work 

 for the time being. We ere goinr to revise the plons and 

 fine' out rhere we fell dorn this year. We are -rolng to 

 dwell especially on cooperation, We believe that is one of 

 the main factors in keeping down fires. There has been many 

 plans of cooperation suggested, but I believe we have Just 

 begun in that direction. Another thing re rr.nt to consider 

 is tool boxos. We should set tool boxes at strategic points 

 on the forest. We should buy a lot of tools and place then 

 where re can use them. 



(Hero followed a discussion by Mr. DuBoia and !Ir. 

 Pratt of tho ideal and secondary fire plans. Mr. Du3ois in 

 favor of ideal plans on maps and paper. Pratt in favor of 

 secondary plans only on paper because there rould be so much 

 in tho Irleal plan that would not be used. Mr. Du3ois be- 

 lieved that on account of the ideal plan conteinin-T data that 

 could not be used at tho present time on account of conditions, 

 had an advantage over I.'r. Pratt T s scheme in that it would not 

 have to be revised each year and rould last, if properly 

 gotten up, from five to ton years, whereas a secondary plan 

 would only last one year. ) 



Mr. Koadloy hero gave a brief resume of tho San 

 Bernardino fire end admonished us to berere of wind. He said 

 "We must not forgot that sometimes we will have a heavy wind at 

 the same time we have a fire. One test of efficiency will 



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