But aa to my work here, yes, I've had a snap. l!y hands 

 are so soft that one rdnute on the fire line would put me 

 i;i tl-.e hosi-itcl. I said snap - if you consider laok of ex- 

 ercise a snap. My first three months vras spent in learning 

 how to go at" the job in front of me. I had to attract the 

 attention and hold the interest of visitors. The point was 

 how to do it. I wolce up nights telling & big crowd of four 

 or five people how we fight fire and why the Forest Service 

 Is a necessary part of the ITr.tionol Government. 



It worked out into a study of human nature, and when I 

 learned how to take people of different types, I found how 

 tc hold their Interest. Kipling hes a few verses entitled 

 "Ladles", and each verse ends : ''and I learned about women 

 from 'er." I learned about mroi frora *im and f er. 



Lly first education a*me at the hands of a rabid conserv- 

 ationist. His Indignation because we sell timber and allow 

 grazing was intense. It took ne an hour to convince him 

 that forestry Is a business and not a sentimental proposi- 

 tion. 



A fond mother brought her son in to me to talk forest- 

 ry and art as a business o&tch the art and when a new 

 Forest Assistant appears on the Sierra who wishes to paint 

 half the day and study trees the other part of the day, and 

 live in a log cabin meanwhile, you will have that son with 

 the artistic soul. His mother says he must have a dignified 

 profession and that the rangors' life is n so ^oetloal" - 

 emphasis on the so. 



The next encounter worthy of mention was with an Oregon 

 Lawyer. TThat a grafter I felt like before he got through 

 th me'. The curse of the West is paternalism", he said, 

 the forests and waters to the states, so that thev 

 developed." I waited patiently for fifteen minutes, 

 'imply ocianse z oouldn . t g et ln a word edgewlsei Heanvrhiie 

 le crowd oolleoted, scenting a fight or an argument, I 

 suppose. I atterrpted to answer a few of his statements, but 

 he beocne as belligerent as all Suro^e. Immediately several 

 allies volunteered support of my cause, but rer.embering Pres- 

 ident Wilson's plea for strict neutrality I managed to avert 

 hostilities. By tMs tine our states rights man severed 

 di^lomatio r- ^ ^.r.c took his passports. 



These 'V ar.toictoa simply illustrate a, bi 



