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men of a tree without feeling like taking off my hat and saying to it 

 with all oriental courtesy and certainly all oriental sincerity, "May 

 your shadow never grow less," and the only way we can keep the 

 shadow from growing less is to plant trees and if ever one is cut 

 down we shoujd see to it that another tree is put in its place. The 

 condition in Ohio is a little different from most other states, and yet 

 it is no less a problem there than elsewhere. We have no waste 

 land. There is scarcely an acre of land that people think they cannot 

 use for any other purpose. All the state was so heavily wooded that 

 the trees were regarded as a sort of enemy, and we have to excuse 

 this lack of interest in forestry. When the great work of the state 

 in the past was to cut down trees and get them out of the way, it 

 was very hard to get them interested. We are turning a sharp corner, 

 to get them interested in the growing of trees. 



Chairman Taft : We would like to have Mr. Goodman tell us 

 something about Missouri. 



Mr. Goodman : Missouri is a very wooded state and we have 

 had no occasion to plant. I wish to tell you of an instance or two 

 which occurred where I had a hand in planting down in southern 

 Kansas nearly thirty years ago. Robert Douglas, from Waukegan, 

 111., was employed to plant a thousand acres of catalpa and other trees 

 down in the southern part of the state, and it is hard to tell you how 

 much money that thousand acres has brought in, the cost of which at 

 that time was $25 per acre for prairie land. I cannot tell you the 

 amount of money that land has brought in for the last twenty years, 

 and the property to-day is worth a thousand dollars per acre with 

 the timber that is on it. Mr. Monk, Mr. Underwood and others also 

 have large plantations of catalpa trees, and I am probably safe in 

 saying that had I planted catalpa trees instead of orchard trees, as I 

 have planted them there by the thousand, I believe I would have 

 made $100 where I have made one, and I have made some money 

 in the orchard business. Down in Hutchinson, Kansas, are two large 

 plantations, one owned by Mr. Yaeger, who tells me he has sold 

 from that plantation of 800 acres, 10,000 trees a year. A part of the 

 plantation is now making its third growth of forest trees in thirty 

 years. He cuts those catalpas down and in one year a sprout will 

 come and when grown it will get eight or ten and in some instances 

 fourteen feet high and some of those have been cut twice within 

 thirty years. They sell the poles for telephone posts and that sort, of 

 work. They do not get large enough for the lumber business, but it 

 is still a money-making proposition in the western country. 



Mr. Augustine: Mr. Chairman, I want to say that if Mr. Good- 

 man planted anything but the speciosa variety I should consider his 

 land worth less than it was before planting. The great danger in 

 planting catalpa for timber is the difficulty of getting the genuine 

 speciosa seed, and it is quite difficult to tell the genuine until the trees 

 attain a considerable size. Therefore great care should be taken, 

 as the other varieties of catalpa are worth little if anything for timber. 

 There is no doubt in my judgment that Catalpa speciosa is among the 



