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Breeding no u<i to EratlUatc the 

 »i\vurinin;; Propeiisilj . 



WHttai for the American Bcc Journal 



<liiery 582.— Can « strain of bees be tm- 

 pnived hycarelul breediim:, whicb will have 

 bred out the propensity to swarm ?— Obio. 



I doubt it. — Eugene Secor. 



AVe think not. — Dadant & Son. 



I think .-JO, most assiivodly. — A. J. 

 Cook. 



I tliink so, to some extent. — J. M. 

 Hambaugh. 



Possibly, but I tliink that it would 

 be a long job. — C. C. Miller. 



I do not think that the swarming 

 pnii)eiisit\ ciin ever be bred out, — J. 

 P. H. Hi{o\vt(. 



It is i)c)s.sil)le to improve bees by 

 careful lireeiling. — H. U. Cutting. 



I think so, but it would take a very 

 long time. — R. L. Taylor. 



I do not know ; but I would like 

 such bees if as good in other respects. 



C. H. DiBBERN. 



Oh, yes. You can breed toward al- 

 most any desired mental or physical 

 standard, but practically I think you 

 had not better spend uiuch of your 

 time ti-ying to breed out the propen- 

 sity to swarm. — James Heddok. 



By careful selection of breeding- 

 stock, the propensity to swarm can be 

 diminished. — M. Mahin. 



They may, but I think it is doubt- 

 ful ; hens have been bred that lose the 

 propensity to set.— Mrs. L. Harrison. 



No doubt of it. Chas. Dadant & Son 

 have nearly accomplished it, aided by 

 their large hives. — J. M. Shuck. 



No one can tell. Theoretically it 

 can, but I think that it would cause 

 injury to so breed. See Gleanings of 

 1883, for an article on that subject. — 

 J. E. Pond. 



I live in Ohio, but I do not know of 

 any such bees in the State, and I do 

 not believe that there ever will be an}' 

 such here, or elsewhere, for that mat- 

 tei-. — A. B. Mason. 



No. I have had colonies of bees 

 that did not swarm for four yeai's, but 

 after carefully ex))erimenting without 

 avail, I adhered to my convictions, 

 that it is useless to try to woi'k to 

 change natural laws P. L. Viallon. 



I think not. If the desire to swarm 

 under favorable conditions could be 

 bred out of bees, it could only lie done 

 at a saerilice of valuable qualities. I 

 think the only way to bieed out of 

 bees the desire to fulfill this mission in 

 the earth, would be to breed down- 



ward until no eniugv was left. I will 

 suggest that if you can breed a strain 

 of bees that always have yoiiwj queens, 

 healthy and .strong, you will have a 

 non-swarming .strain. But if the 

 (pieens are to get old, like all other 

 living creatures, you will make a fail- 

 ure. — G. W. Demaree. 



To the first half of the question, yes; 

 to the other part, I will say that when 

 working for comb honey, you will be 

 apt to get swarms after " careful 

 breeding " for a thousand years. — G. 



M. DOOLITTLE. 



Careful selection, and breeding may 

 very much improve bees, but swarm- 

 ing is their method of increase, and to 

 " breed out the propensity to swarm " 

 is more than one might hope ior, or 

 expect, — The Editor. 



The Annual Rent of an Apiary. 



WriXUn Sot t?ie American Bee Journal 



Query 583.— What annual rent could be 

 profltahly paid for an out-apiary of 100 colo- 

 nies ?— Nebraska. 



All depends upon circumstances, and 

 it is very hard to answer. — P: L. Vial- 

 lon. 



Last year and this, it would be the 

 widow's mite. — Mrs. L. Harrison. 



So much depends; that I will not 

 try to shed any light. — James Heddon. 



It would depend upon the location 

 and the honey-crop prospects. — J. P. 

 H. Brown. 



It is hard to say. This year, a 

 " goose-egg," as the College boj's say. 

 — A. J. Cook. 



Ten to fifteen dollars ought to pay 

 the ground rent. — C. H. Dibbern. 



In this locality not a cent, unless the 

 seasons change. — H. D. Cutting. 



Much depends. Lines should be 

 very nicely drawn to decide. — J. M. 

 Hambaugh. 



I do not know. It will depend 

 wholly on the locality and season, or 

 more particularly on the crop of honey 

 gathered. — J. E. Pond. 



So much depends upon varying cir- 

 cumstances that I cannot give an 

 opinion. — M. Mahin. 



Annual interest at the current rates 

 upon the cash value of the bees and 

 hives J. M. Shuck. 



That depends upon so many minor 

 considerations that I will not attempt 

 a gue.ss. — Eugene Secor. 



No one could tell without knowing 

 the average yield of the field, and 

 other circumstances. ^R. L. Taylor. 



That depends upon the locality and 

 season. Last jear and this, in most 

 localities, anj- rent would have been 



too much. Last year Dr. Miller's .•;ur- 

 plus honey cost him over $2.00 a 

 pound. — A. B. Mason. 



It depend.s upon the location. In a 

 first-class place, s.ay 1,500 pounds of 

 extracted honey, or its equivalent. We 

 would advise the renter, however, to 

 give nothing but a share of the crop. — 

 Dadant & Son. 



I guess that would depend upon the 

 season. Such seasons as the past two 

 have been, give little margin to the 

 apiarist who has no rent to pay. — G. 

 M. Doolittle. 



In foi-mer years I would have an- 

 swered that an annual rent equal to 20 

 per cent, on the investment could be 

 safely and profitably paid ; but with 

 the experience of the. last three years 

 freshly in my mind, a man would have 

 to pay nie a io»«s equal to 25 per cent, 

 of hi.s investment, to take his bees oflf 

 of his hands for one year. — G. W. 

 Demaree. 



So much depends upon the locality, 

 the pasturage near it, the kind of sea- 

 son, that it would be difficult to arrive 

 at a correct way to answer the ques- 

 tion. Ten dollars ought to pay the 

 rent in an ordinary season, perhaps. — 

 The Editor. 



Convention Notices. 



rE'" The Pan-Handle Bee - Keepers' AeioclRtlon 

 will hold its next meeting in tlie K. of KHhI on 

 Main St., between mil i 12th Streets. In Wheeling, 

 W Va., on Nov. 21 and 22, 1888. All bee keepers are 

 cordially Invited. W. L. KIN8EV, See. 



t^~ 'rhe next meetinz of the Union Bee-Keepers* 

 AsBocialiun will be held at i layton. Ills., on Tnes- 

 dav and Wene.Hday.oct. lennd 17, iMHx.ln the I'uwn 

 mill at 10:1" a.m. The Parli Hotel will charge tl.OO 

 per day; ilie restauriints 2.5 cls. per meal. We ex- 

 pect Messrs Dadant, Hambaugh, Camm and other 

 prominent bee-lieeperB to be present 

 •^ S. N. BLACK, Prei. 



Can You I>o Anytliing that will do 

 more to advance and defend the pursuit of 

 bee-keepinc, tli»n to aid its Weekly Ex- 

 ponent and Defender ? Tlie Americaw 

 Bee Journal is the pioneer bee-paper of 

 America, and is fully entitled to the active 

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 works constantly and faithfully for the best 

 interests of the pursuit. We therefore 

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 influence to double our subscription list 

 during the coining autumn, lieailer, will 

 you please se:id us a new subscription with 

 your renewal or before that time ? A good 

 weekly at one dollar a year Is surely cheap 

 enough to command patronage. 



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