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tors of hives think that their invention 

 only is good, and that all other hives 

 are impracticable. Not so with Mr. 

 Gravenhorst. He fnlly perceives the 

 advantages of other hives, and es- 

 pecially of our Langstroth hive, and 

 his judgment vras always impartial. 

 In this respect he is far ahead of a 

 few frivolous enviers who criticized 

 his hive and management a short time 



ago. . . 



In his book he gives descriptions 

 and engravings of different German 

 hives ; but we find the Langstroth, 

 Cowan, and the new Heddon hive too. 

 No other German bee-book mentions 

 these or similar hives. The operations 

 and management are described, but he 

 always gives remarks as' to how the 

 bee-keeper should proceed with hives 

 of other styles. 



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Using Clilorofornt to Quiet 

 Tempered Bees. 



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Written for the American Bee Journal 



Qnery 588.— 1. Would any ill-effects follow 

 the use of chloroform In quieting very ill- 

 natured Cyprians or, other bees ? 2. Will they 

 revive after being thoroughly paralyzed by 

 its use ?— Iowa. 



never used it. — Eugene 



I have 

 Secor. 



1. No ; not unless you go too far. 2. 

 Yes. — H. D. Cutting. 



The use of chloroform is dangerous, 

 either on bees or human beings. — 

 Dadant & Son. 



I cannot say,- as I have never experi- 

 mented' in that direction. — J. M. Ham- 



BAUGH. 



A trial will tell you. If you kill 

 them, it would be a " small loss." — G. 



M. DOOLITTLE. 



1. I think not, unless greatly over- 

 done. 2. I think so, but I have never 

 tried it. — C. C. Miller. 



I have had no experience with chlo- 

 roform, and so I do not know. — C. H. 



DiBBERN. 



1. No. 2. Unless kept too long un- 

 der the influence of it, they will re- 

 vive. — P. L. VlAXLON. 



I have had no experience with either 

 chloroform or Cyprians. Th-ey might 

 do well toqether. — J. M. Shuck. 



1. I cannot .speak from experience. 

 2. I think they will, but I have never 

 tried it on a full colony. — Mrs. L. 

 Harrison. 



It all depends upon haw much they 

 were paralyzed. If I had cross Cyp- 

 rians, or any kind of cross bees, I 



would paralyze them 

 James Heddon. 



1. I think not. 2. Yes. I have used 

 chloroform on bees until they fell from 

 the combs. All revived, and seemed 

 unharmed. I prefer, however, not to 

 use it. Smoke, I think, is preferable. 

 — A. J. Cook. 



1. There will be no ill-effects if you 

 know just when to stop. 2. Yes ; but 

 do not give too much. When you must 

 give bees an ansesthetic, smoke them 

 with puff-balls {Lycoperdon bovista). — 

 J. P. H. Brown. 



1. I think not. Those who have 

 tested say that there will not. 2. I 

 have never tested it, but I see no rea- 

 son why they should not ; but I do not 

 think its use should be pushed to that 

 extent >T. E. Pond. 



1. I have never used chloroform. 

 On general principles I woidd think 

 that a moderate use might produce no 

 ill-effects. 2. That would depend upon 

 the quantity used. — M. Mahin. 



It would depend entirely upon the 

 strength of the dose. Just enough to 

 "quiet them" would undoubtedly have 

 no permanent ill-effects. Though I 

 should not want to answer for those 

 that were "thoroughly paralyzed." — 

 Will M. Barnum. 



I never use any severe measures to 

 conquer spiteful bees. If a colony be- 

 comes unmanageable, I proceed to 

 change the strain, and get rid of the 

 unmanageable bees in that waj-. 1. I 

 have never used chloroform to quiet 

 bees, and therefore I do not know 

 about its effects on them. 2. The word 

 "thoroughly" is pretty strong. I 

 would never expect to see bees active 

 again after once being "thoroughly 

 paralyzed." — G. W. Demaree. 



No ill-effects would follow a mod- 

 erate dose, but the true way to conquer 

 ill-natured bees is to introduce a new 

 mother of good-natured bees. — The 

 Editor. 



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Extracting the Honey from 

 Brood-lVest. 



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Written for the American Bee Journal 



Query 589.— Would it not be a good plan 

 to extract a part of the honey in the brood- 

 chamber to give room for the queen, and 

 still leave plenty of honey for winter stores, 

 even if some feeding in the spring had to be 

 done ?-N. S. 



No, never. — James Heddon. 



No. — Eugene Secor. 



No. — M. Mahin. 



No, not as a general rule. — Will M. 

 Baknum. 



No ; she would have plenty of room 

 without making the stores short. — R. 

 L. Taylor. 



No. Use Hill's device over 

 frames. — Mrs. L. Harrison. 



Yes ; but do this before the weather 

 becomes too cold. — C. H. Dibbern. 



I do not do it. Bees properly man- 

 aged during the honey season will not 

 store too much in the brood-nest. — J. 

 M. Shuck. 



Be very cautious about extracting 

 from the brood-combs, late in the sea- 

 son. We do not believe in it. — Dadant 

 & Son. 



Without great care and good judg- 

 ment it would be a very bad plan. — J. 

 P. H. Brown. 



I never saw a hive too full of honey 

 for safe wintering. The queen needs 

 no more room than any other bee, late 

 in the fall.— G. M. Doolittle. 



Should the colony be quite populous 

 they will probably consume stores sufli- 

 cient to make room for the queen. It 

 might be necessary to extract in the 

 spring. — J. M. Hambaugh. 



If in the fall after the honey flow. 

 I would not extract. I always found 

 that those colonies which had plenty of 

 honey in the brood-chamber to winter 

 on, came out the strongest and in bet- 

 ter condition in the spring. — P. L. 

 Viallon. 



I like the combs well filled for win- 

 ter. I would rather remove combs 

 and have 30 pounds of honey in five 

 Langstroth frames, or eight Gallup 

 frames, than to have the 30 pounds in 

 all the frames. — A. J. CoOK. 



Unless the hive is very small, it is 

 not necessary, and I would rather 

 have enough in the hive to avoid feed- 

 ing in the fall or spring. — C. C. 

 Miller. 



I never allow the queen to be crowd- 

 ed in the brood-chamber. The plan 

 that gives her ample room should be 

 adopted. Experience will prove what 

 plan is the best.— J. E. Pond. 



It would depend upon the size of 

 the hive and several other conditions. 

 I want enough good honey left in the 

 brood-chamber to carry the bee* 

 through without feeding in the spring, 

 if possible.— H. D. Cutting. 



While I would prefer to have two 

 or three combs in the middle of the 

 brood-chamber only partly filled from 

 the top-bars downward, as an empty 

 place for the bees to cluster in, at the 

 beginning of winter, I do not think 

 that it is essentially necessary ._ The 

 queen needs no " room " at this time 

 of the year.— G. W. Demaree. 



In winter, the queen takes no more 

 room than a worker-bee. There can 

 be no good reason for taking honey 

 away from the bees in the fall, when 

 they have not enough for their use in 

 the spring.— The Editor. 



