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phosphate, and came to the condnsion that I should have come much 

 nearer getting mj money's wortli by buying stable manure. 



Mr. A. S. Fuller. — Now, gentlemen, you may go to the great nur- 

 serymen and market gardeners, the successful men, those who get 

 rich at it, and ask them about manures. What do they say ? Peter 

 Henderson uses barn-yard manure, and pays six or seven dollars a 

 load for it rather than not get it. Elwanger & Barry, the leading 

 nurserymen of Rochester, I may say of America, use the dung 

 and litter of animals ; none of j-our chemicals and phosphates for 

 them; it is tJie dung-heaps they believe in. The farmers would be 

 better off if they would pitch these sham fertilizers into North river. 



Mr. H. T. Williams. — xifter numerous experiments I have come to 

 the conclusion that I can bring my land into the condition I want it 

 for any crops with swamp nulck, ground bones and fish guano. 



Mr. James A. Whitney. — Gentlemen speak in a confident and 

 sweeping waj^, without adding a M'ord of explanation as to the crop 

 for which they fertilize. These men, cited with such flourish of 

 authority by Mr. Fuller, are small fruit culturists. They do not raise 

 wheat, nor roots for stock. They require a light, active fertilizer 

 that will act promptly. When we culti^'ate for stalk we need one 

 -kind of manure, when we seek returns of seed or grain we should 

 use another kind of fertilizer. The best top-dressing for grass is not 

 the most suitable application for wheat. For grain we should use 

 substances that contain phosphate of lime. In fruits we care little or 

 nothing for the seed. In wheat the grain is everything. The prac- 

 tice of special cultivators and market gardeners will not do as a 

 guide for all farmers. 



Dr. Isaac P. Trimble. — Ah, gentlemen, you would not be wrangling 

 here over the phosphates if you could get plenty of our Jersey marl. 



Mr. P. T. Quinn. — I have seen the effects of Jersey marl, and. I 

 liave bought and used it. Just like every other manure, it depends 

 on soil and the crops to be raised. Its effects on the sandy lands of 

 south Jersey are indeed wonderful, but on my heavy red clay, I 

 ■would not give ten cents a ton for it. 



Mr. A. Stone. — With us the conclusion is general that when we 

 come to baying manure, the best investment we can make is in bones, 

 ground to a fine dust. 



The Waltek Gkape. 

 Mr. A. J. Caywood brought before the club numerous clusters of 

 this new hybrid. He wished to say a word with regard to a com- 



