PROCEEDINGS OF THE HORTICULTURAL ASSOCIATION. 657 



November 15, 1864. 

 Mr. J. W. Barrows, Vice President, in the chair 



Mr.'Wni. S. Carpenter presented six varieties of apples, viz : Fall Pippin, 

 PJunlc Island Creeninj;-, Newtown Pippin, Dominic, Wine and IJawley's 

 Sweet, and spoke of tiie qualities of these apples both for the table and for 

 shipping;. Ho alluded to the fact that handsome looking apples bring the 

 best prices, and that other varieties, beside the Newtown Pippin, sell well 

 in Europe. 



Dr. Ilawes asked if the Hubbardston Nonesuch was more liable than 

 other kinds to bo molested by the apple moth ? 



Mr. Peter B. Mead — Apples in this respect may be divided into classes, 

 such as sweet, sub-acid and acid, and it will be found that sweet apples 

 are most of all liable to be attacked by insects, the sub-acid less, and the 

 acid least. The Hubbardston Nonesuch, therefore, is not more liable than 

 others to the attack of insects, at least this is mj' experience. 



Mr. Mead then spoke of the apple in an economic sense. The Newtown 

 Pippin is a good apple, and sells for a high price, not less in some seasons 

 than S15 per barrel. When perfectly ripe its flesh is tough. The Esopus 

 Spitzenburg is also a fine apple, but its flesh is rathev tough. I prefer 

 apples with a tender flesh, such as the Early Joe, and the Swaar. 



Mr. Wm. S. Carpenter — I place many varieties of apples before the 

 Newtown Pippin. As a cooking apple the Hubbardston Nonesuch is of 

 first quality. The Rhode Island Greening is a good apple, but it will not 

 make cider ; it has no distinctive quality. A number of persons are, how- 

 ever, planting this variety for tliat purpose. The Mother and the Wagner 

 possess fine qualities. The Jonathan is also a fine apple of the Spitzenburg 

 quality. The Primate is one of our finest varieties, approaching the 

 character of a good peai-. The Early Joe alluded to by Mr. Meade is a 

 very excellent apple ; it is buttery and you may squeeze it as you would 

 a pear. 



Mr. Meade — I hope our committee on large fruits are tak'ng notes and 

 making a record of all the local fruits they meet with. I have seen many 

 kinds that are very superior, both for cooking and eating. *I presented 

 one variety grown in New Jersey, called tlie Checney apple, to the last 

 Pomological Socief)', held at Rochester. It was deemed by the. fruit com- 

 mittee to be of a very good quality. 



Dr. C. W. Grant — I expected Mr. Carpenter would have extended his list 

 of apples. Mexico I consider a good apple, also the Cogswell, AVestfield 

 Seek-no-further, and Melon. The McClennan is a vigorous grower and 

 should not be passed over. Peck's Pleasant is a Connecticut apple, sur- 

 passing the Newtown Pippin. Dr. D. S. Pardee of New Haven, originated 

 one hundred varieties of pears, many of which are of good quality. Gov- 

 ernor Edwards also originated a large number of excellent pears. Primate 

 is an excellent apple. I saw it growing in Connecticut thirty years ago, 

 and think it must have strayed to the western part of this State. 



The early settlers of New England had a great variety of English apjjles, 

 and seedlings are constantly coining up, which is one reason for finding 

 tjuch good apples there. 



Mr. Wm. S. Carpenter — The Tompkins County King has been put high 

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