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lows: Isabella, 14; Delaware, 22; Concord, 22; Allen's Hybrid, 21, and 

 several other sorts which succeeded in more States or parts of States than 

 the Isabella. Mr. Carpenter said that he had no interest, except that of 

 his earnest wish to see grape culture succeed, to induce liim to oppose the 

 planting of Isabella vineyards. He certainly could not recommend a friend 

 to plant a variety which he does not believe has proved fully successful at 

 the rate of one vine to every one hundred planted. And the general failure 

 of the vines to remain healthy, and failure to ripen fruit so as to satisfy 

 those who grow it, as other varieties have done, has certainly done a vast 

 amount of injury to vine culture in this country. If there had been no fail- 

 ures — no sad losses by those who have started vineyards of Isabella vines, 

 there would have been a thousand vines producing good fruit where there is 

 not one now. Many persons have become so disgusted in their attempts 

 to grow Isabellas, in my neighborhood, that they will not listen to a sug- 

 gestion to try any of the new varieties, which so far have given eminent 

 satisfaction. 



Mr. A. S. Fuller. — If there are localities where the Isabella succeeds so 

 as to give satisfaction, there let it be cultivated; but pray let us urge its 

 friends to try some other sorts, and not be satisfied witli this if there are 

 better ones. If that will grow and you cannot grow any thing better, I 

 beg all to grow that — grow grapes of some kind — if nothing else, grow a 

 wild fox vine and let it run over an apple tree. And if you can not learn 

 to cultivate a nursery vine after the most approved method, still let me 

 urge you to plant it, and let it run wild; it will produce some good fruit. 

 Several sorts such as Concord, Hartford Prolific, etc., will grow in a sort 

 of wild way and produce fruit thiit is better than none. Anything, even 

 the most fi)xy wildling, is better than nothing. Plant something. If one 

 fails, try another. One will succeed in one place and fail in another. I 

 esteem the Delaware as the most trustworthy of all, yet that has failed ; 

 and at best it is a sort of dandy, as compared with the robust Concord. 

 The Clinton is considered one of the most hardy of all, yet here is. Mr. Ber- 

 gen to tcll'us that it rotted with him this year. But that should not deter 

 his next door neighbor from trjnng it. But what I wish to say to every 

 owner of a foot of American soil, is, plant a vine. Do not fail to grow 

 grapes for your family. If one sort fails, another will succeed. If all fail 

 this year, do not be discouraged and give up, but hope for success another 

 year. 



How TO Make Cisterns in Springy Ground. 



Mr. S. D. Newbro of Lansing, Mich. — If any body will follow the ac- 

 companying directions they can make a cistern in springy ground, and even 

 cement against a spring that lets in water fast as one man can pump it 

 out, provided the fountain-head is not so high as to cause the water to over- 

 flow the top of the cistern. Of course, when the water in the cistern stands 

 on a level with the fountain-head, there is no action anywhere to interfere 

 with the cementing process. You will confer a favor on the public by pub- 

 lishing. 



Dig a hole of theTjest shape to suit the nature of the ground. If the ground 

 is sandy and cannot be plastered, then, of course, make a wall of brick or 



