Revelle That's right, I never did. 



Sharp: Why did you this time? 



Revelle: Well, I guess Goldwater was running against him, and I 



thought Goldwater was a real menace to the country, which he 

 was, although he's more sensible in some ways than Reagan at 

 that. But I don't think that was a major activity. 

 Although it's interesting that it somehow got into the 

 record. 



One of the problems about going to Harvard, one of my 

 • conditions I was that we should be involved with the faculty 

 of Arts and Sciences, it should be a university-wide center, 

 and not just a center for the School of Public Health. 



Sharp: That was clear. The courses that were being offered, for 

 example, there was a very interdisciplinary feeling. 



Revelle: That's right. 



Sharp: It's clear in some instances how the ideas for the courses 

 came together, but I thought we might talk about the 

 teaching and course offerings that the center developed 

 because it's certainly interesting to see it evolve. 



Revelle: Yes, it is. 



Sharp: Just for an example, in January of '65 you were lecturing in 

 a seminar. Demography and Human Ecology, and that was in the 

 Department of Demography and Human Ecology, in the School of 

 Public Health. 



Revelle: Is that what it was called? I thought it was called the 

 Department of Population Sciences. Maybe it was called 

 Demography and Human Ecology. 



Sharp: The names changed. 



Revelle: Yes, they did. We had no demographers. I guess we did 

 have, we had David Herr, who was an assistant professor. 



Sharp: Yes, I have that name. 



This early course in January of 1965 of course that's 

 just the second semester that you were there, but also, for 

 example, there was something called, a year later. Religious 

 Ethics and Population Control. That was offered by Ralph 

 Potter, who was at the School of Public Health, and Arthur 

 Dyck who was at the Divinity School. 



Revelle: They were both in the Divinity School, 

 assistant professors. 



They were very young 



One of my drives was that I thought we should develop 

 population ethics at the center in collaboration with the 

 Divinity School. In fact, this was part of my general 

 feeling that it ought to be a university-wide center. 



Let me just talk about this in a more or less coherent 



