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The faculty have really very little to say about 

 running the place. They have a little to say about who is 

 appointed, but not very much. Each faculty appointment is 

 recommended by and essentially made by an ad hoc committee 

 appointed by the president of the university, or in the case 

 of the Faculty of Arts and Sciences by the Dean of the 

 Faculty of Arts and Sciences. It usually has two or three 

 outside people on it, outside the university altogether. 

 The president sits on every one and the dean sits on every 

 one. 



Sharp: 



Revelle: 



Well, in your case, in the center, when you were wanting to 

 make appointments, did you have to go through the School of 

 Public Health, or through — . 



No, it depended on the department. First i 

 through the department, like the Department 

 the Department of Social Relations, or the 

 because the professorial appointments were 

 department. Non-professorial appointments 

 our executive committee could make or our a 

 could endorse them and essentially we'd do 

 appointments had to go through departments, 

 too. I don't know about other places, but 

 Harvard. 



t had to go 



of Economics, or 

 Divinity School, 

 primarily in the 

 I could make or 

 dvisory council 

 it. But faculty 



as they do at UC 

 certainly UC and 



Then the president would appoint this ad hoc 

 committee. I remember when Nathan Pusey was president I sat 

 on two or three of these. I was on a couple with Bok too. 

 But the president had a lot to say about it. Basically it 

 was the president's decision. Pusey had very good taste, 

 interestingly enough. 



Sharp: At least it was good for that, for the center then. 



Revelle: Oh yes. He built up a tremendous faculty and he did it by 

 intuitive, as I said, good taste, intuition about who was 

 good and who wasn't. 



Anyhow, Hiatt was Derek's choice, the first dean he 

 appointed, so he felt quite touchy about anybody criticizing 

 him. What Hiatt wanted to do was a very good thing to do; 

 that is, to modernize Public Health because it's a 

 multidisciplinary science or field involving economics, 

 politics, and social sciences, the business school and the 

 Kennedy School of Government — all of them — he got them 

 into the act with Public Health, and that was a very good 

 thing to do. 



Sharp: It seems like that would fit in pretty well with 

 what the center — . 



Revelle: Yes, it would. The trouble is he had such poor judgment 



about people, and also he was in a hurry. At a university 

 you can't be in a hurry. 



Sharp: The center was still working on a relatively small scale — . 



Revelle: Oh yes. 



