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Sharp: — and the choice of appointments is even more important I 

 suppose if you're working just with a rather small staff 

 where there's a lot of interaction. 



Revelle: Yes. Well, we have a list of people who were involved with 

 it here.* [Sharp gives list to Revelle.] It wasn't so very 

 small. The people who really had their offices there were 

 Bergman, Dorfman, Dyck, Keyfitz, Potter, Revelle, 

 Tabors, Peter Rogers, David Heer, John Wyon, but 

 these people now were in the Population Sciences Department, 

 the Department of Population Sciences. David Heer, Noel 

 • Mcintosh, Steven Plank, and Henry Vaillant. And then the 

 research associates: Repetto, Bergman, Frisch, Jim Gavan. 

 That was about the size of it. And then Salhanick and 

 Wyon, and some other people in the Department of Population 

 Sciences. We were closely involved with them. 



We had an Advisory Committee of people from all the 

 faculties. Harvey Brooks, Milton Katz, George Homans, Roger 

 Revelle. 



These pages are sort of mixed up, but some I didn't 

 mention were, members of the center were Hilton Salhonick, 

 Jack Snyder, Harold Thomas, and John Wyon. Altogether it 

 was about twenty-five people. 



Then the Advisory Committee was about fifteen people. 

 The principal ones were Brooks, Cochran, George Homans of 

 Sociology, Milton Katz at the law school, the dean of the 

 School of Design, Pat Moynihan in the School of Education, 

 Janet McArthur in the MGH, Henry Rosovsky, at that time he 

 was a professor of economics, before he became dean, this 

 was the original list. Ted Sizer in Education, Fred Smith 

 in Environmental Studies, Krister Stendahl, the dean of 

 the Divinity School, and Ray Vernon who was head of the 

 Center for International affairs. 



Sharp: How did you use the Advisory Committee? 



Revelle: Well, we would meet about once every two months, and they 

 were very helpful. The main thing to do was to talk about 

 the future of the center, what kind of people we should try 

 to get and who they should be, and how we should get money 

 and what projects we should [undertake] . Everything was 

 discussed with these people. The whole thing was a learning 

 experience for everybody. There had never been a center 

 like this before, [brief tape interruption] 



One of the people we thought of for one of our Andelot 

 chairs was Norman Ryder who was a sociological demographer 

 who later went to Princeton, but he had offended Jack 

 Snyder. We had a conference — in fact, we did it at 

 Scripps — about the future of the center. Population 

 specialists from different parts of the country came to it, 

 including Ryder. He was very acerbic in his opinions, not 

 so much about us but about problems and people. So he 

 antagonized Jack, and Jack didn't want to have him, although 

 I^ thought he would have been a very good addition 



