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little concerned about the university. 



Sharp: Is there a reason for that kind of preoccupation? 



Revelle: I don't know, but maybe that's the way things have been 



going in the last few years in other places too. My son, 

 for example, is a professor at Northwestern and a lot of the 

 Northwestern faculty he doesn't know. They stick to their 

 discipline pretty much. Here the problem is exacerbated by 

 the lack of housing close to the university. 



Sharp: There's no sense of real campus community. 



Revelle: That's right. The other problem is there's no Telegraph and 

 Bancroft, no Harvard Square. Anyhow, it ain't the same 

 as Harvard. Another great thing about Harvard was the 

 faculty club where people would go to have lunch from all 

 over the campus. They have a long table there which seats 

 about forty people, and you might sit next to anybody from 

 any part of the university and talk to them, and it doesn't 

 have anything to do with what you're supposed to do. 



Sharp: At the Men's Faculty Club at UC Berkeley, that does go on. 



Revelle: The same thing. That's true. 



Sharp: And the Women's Faculty Club as well. 



Revelle: Oh yes, very much so. Berkeley has a much more collegial 

 atmosphere than we have down here. 



Sharp: That's really true. When I was a graduate student here there 

 was never anything. I never knew anybody else in history. 

 I never had time for it. 



Revelle: Whereas at Berkeley, I used to go to the faculty club when I 

 was a graduate student in 1931, and I loved it. It was 

 wonderful. It really made me feel part of the academic 

 world. So this has been the great disappointment here, the 

 lack of real spirit of the cair^sus, of the university. 



Sharp: When I was a graduate student, on Friday afternoons we would 

 go down into La Jolla and drink beer together. 



Revelle: Yes. TGIF. For a while they have had a celebration like 

 that right on the campus every Friday after noon, right in 

 front of the gymnasium, on that knoll there, with a band, a 

 noisy band. You can hear them all over, and they used to 

 have beer. There was some difficulty with that because of 

 the age of the students these days. 



Sharp: Yes, it wouldn't be selective enough. 



Revelle: It's too bad too. I think they ought to all have beer. 



Maybe not too much, but some! On the Scripps ships we would 

 always take several hundred cans of beer and in the evening 

 we ' d ration out one or two cans to everybody on the 

 expedition. 



Sharp : 



You used to have some pretty awful movies, from what I 



