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president of the Sloan Foundation for many years, 

 nice, competent young men. 



Two very 



I was just coming on board. I wasn't actually there 

 yet, but it was planned that I would come to the Department 

 of the Interior as Stewart Udall ' s science advisor. Jerry 

 said, "Well, obviously Roger is the guy to solve this 

 problem. He's an oceanographer, so he knows about salt. 

 He's the nearest man we know of that we have any control 

 over who might know something about the subject." I, of 

 course, didn't know anything about it at all. Nothing, 

 nothing. Zero, zero. 



Harvey Brooks, being Jerry's assistant, knew about the 

 Harvard Water Project and he recommended members for the 

 panel we were about to form. Among them Harold Thomas and 

 Bob Dorfman who had been the leaders of the Harvard Water 

 Project and had applied systems analysis, particularly 

 linear programming, to water resource problems. So that 

 part of the panel was already sort of pre-selected, Thomas 

 and Dorfman. I think they also selected a couple of other 

 people. Leonard Katz and Bob Gomer was a professor of 

 chemistry at Chicago. [refers to list]* Yes, Bob Gomer, 

 Leonhard Katz, Bob Dorfman, and Harold Thomas were all sort 

 of pre-selected by Jerry and Harvey. One of the people in 

 Jerry's office was a man named George Lukes who became our 

 staff officer. Then the rest of the panel was mostly 

 selected by me or by the small group that started with it. 



Sharp: Just suggesting different people for it? 



Revelle: Yes. Tom Maddock. Richard Reeve. Charlie Bower. Maybe 



Ayers Brinser, who was a sociologist, he may have come from 

 the original Brooks' nominations. 



I selected Rollin Eckis who was then president of the 

 Richfield Oil Company, my oldest friend. We went to Pomona 

 College together. 



This membership on the panel was more or less rammed 

 down the throat of the Agency for International Development 

 by the White House, but AID insisted on having a member on 

 the panel because they said the main problem was 

 administrative. So they appointed John Blandford who was a 

 consultant to AID. He must have been about seventy at the 

 time. He was supposed to be an expert on administration. 



I got John Isaacs to come aboard. He was my idea man 

 at Scripps. He had been assistant director. He literally 

 produced one idea a week all his life. A fantastic man. 



Sharp: That's the kind of assistant to have. 



Revelle: And we got Cecil Wadleigh from the Soil Conservation 



Service. He was our only real agronomist. David Todd was a 

 hydrologist, a professor at Berkeley, a specialist on ground 

 water. Herb Skibitske was a modeler with the Geological 

 Survey, a hydrological modeler. He used analog computing 

 rather than digital computing. He built big models of 



