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are men who will get results. That is the way it has worked out 
in the state of New York. We are too busy over there to pay 
much attention to the manner in which other states are conduct- 
ing their work, though we follow them pretty closely and some- 
times get some valuable information from them; but our ex- 
perience has been as I have told you. 
Mr. Lydell: I only wish to say that I wish Mr. Bartlett was 
here. (Applause and laughter.) He would show these enemies 
of the carp where they are at in four minutes. I think the carp 
was sent here as a blessing for poor people. The carp are here 
to stay and all the barrels of money we can open will not destroy 
them. I lke them and am going to keep on eating them! 
(Laughter. ) 
Mr. Joslin: What I don’t know about carp is a great deal 
more than I have been told here this afternoon (Laughter) but 
I wanted to say this: nearly two years ago there were bills intro- 
duced in the Michigan legislature to allow the licensing of carp 
fishing or seining. ‘They finally resolved themselves into one 
bill allowing seining for carp along the Detroit River, which with 
the St. Clair River and Lake St. Clair connect Lake Huron with 
Lake Erie. I did not know anything about whether carp ought 
to be seined out or not, and a committee on fishing and fisheries 
were good enough to invite the fish commissioners to come out 
and tell them what we thought about it. Well we did not think 
anything about it because we did not know anything about it— 
whether it ought to be done or ought not to be done. Then 
came certain people, (who some of them I should judge had been 
to Pennsylvania) and told us what a destructive fish the German 
carp was. It seemed to me that representing the fish commis- 
sion at these meetings I ought to find out if I could in what way 
the German carp is more destructive than other fish. This I 
tried to do and I am obliged to say, Mr. President, that after 
attending seven or eight meetings and after cross-examining 
every one making these statements, I never got from one of them 
a single definite bit of evidence that the German carp was more 
destructive of our food fishes in and around Michigan than any 
other fish of that nature. Now the fish commission have its con- 
sent to a bill passing which would allow the seining of German 
