MR. J. M. SNODGRASS (SIO): In fact, there are some very simple 

 brute force methods. One of the simplest is to use a mixture of 

 white vaseline and solid aerosol. It is ground up very finely and 

 put on in a thin coat. It will discourage organisms for a period, 

 depending on exposure and environment, from three weeks to six 

 weeks . 



MR. C. E. BRADY (General Electric): Is there presently or in the 

 future, any change in the Navy's apparent philosophy to fund edu- 

 cational institutions to a greater degree than Industry for research 

 and development and yield new instruments or systems? 



DR. A. E. MAXWELL (ONR): I think there is no change of 

 philosophy here. The philosophy is, as it has been in the past and 

 probably will remain, that the majority of the basic research will 

 probably be funded at the universities and research institutions. 



On the other hand, the Navy is already supporting an extensive 

 applied research program, both at universities and within Industry. 

 I see no trend to show any change in this, with perhaps the excep- 

 tion that if some applied program becomes of an urgent nature, and 

 if this can be funded more logically through Industry rather than 

 through universities, you might have a rapid expansion in this 

 field. Of course, this could go either way. 



MR. JOHN A. ACS (Product Development Engineering Company): 

 If a private research laboratory presents a radically new and 

 different type of survey ship, would it be given ample consideration 

 by the ICO? 



THE CHAIRMAN: The answer is yes. They are looking for some 

 radically new ideas and a number of us have been thinking in terms 

 of research submarines of various radical designs. In fact, some 

 of us connected with the use of the resources of the sea have been 

 thinking in terms of programs on underwater fishing devices, both 

 manned and unmanned, which would in a sense search out the 

 fish and take them electronically or even mechanically, rather 

 than by use of traditional surface ships. 



So I believe I speak for all of us that have served the Inter- 

 agency Committee on Oceanography for a number of years. 

 This is one of the reasons we brought in you people to provide 



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