coring from a submarine would be rather difficult. Seismic work 

 has been done on submarines, but it is extremely difficult. The 

 underwater programs are very simple. Most of the water sampling 

 techniques are too deep for most submarines to reach, so they 

 would require essentially the same gear as a surface ship. 



THE CHAIRMAN: Of course, many of us like the idea of sub- 

 marines, which would allow us to escape from wave action and 

 enable us to study concurrently severe storms and their effect on 

 the surface layers. Submarines would also enable us to inspect 

 and visually select and pick up biological and rock samples from 

 the continental shelf. 



MR, JEROME ROTHSTEIN (Maser Optics, Inc.): Will the speak- 

 ers add short bibliographies useful to industrial people? 



THE CHAIRMAN: This is an excellent suggestion. Might I 

 speak for our people and suggest that we do add a short bibli- 

 ography. This is a good suggestion, and I see no reason why we 

 cannot do this. (See appendix 1, ) 



MR. W. THOMAS HUGHES (Farrand Optical Company, Inc.): 

 Are there any organizations studying the use of porpoises for 

 herding less intelligent fish in groups, much as dogs herd 

 cattle? Also, has there been any effort in domesticating food 

 fish by chemiical-electr ical stimulus or breeding techniques? 



DR. J. L. McHUGH (BCF): I have heard this porpoise sugges- 

 tion before. I think I read it in the funny papers. It is not a 

 bad idea, though. It is worth looking into. They are intelli- 

 gent aninnals and perhaps could be used for this purpose. 



As far as the control of farming techniques is concerned, 

 we have miade the most progress with shellfish, animals such 

 as oysters which are farmed to some degree. Comimercial 

 oyster culture is much more highly developed in some foreign 

 countries than it is in the United States, particularly in Japan, 

 Holland, France, Australia, and to some extent in Great Britain. 



We have some ideas for the future about breeding oysters 

 in laboratories. Our laboratory at Milford, Connecticut, has 

 oysters that are in their fifth or sixth generation of captivity 

 at least, and have lived their entire life cycle in the laboratory. 



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