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in setting up plants to develop this process and investing capital 
in it? 
Pirie: Yes. They have a machine in Lucknow, which is 
run by the Scientific Research Council. The Indian army also 
sent a man to work with us for three weeks, and he has written 
to say that he is building a machine—when it will be finished, 
I don’t know. 
Hoagland: One might think you would have a number of 
orders for these machines and that they would be in demand 
in a number of places, with the level of yield that you are 
getting. 
Pirie: Well, you live in an ideal world! 
Wright: I think this was the experience of Thyssen with 
food yeast, wasn’t it? He could produce food yeast, but he 
couldn’t get it utilized except through very special channels. 
He did indeed try on one occasion to get the Ministry of Food 
to utilize it when we were short of protein after the second 
world war, but the problem was to decide what to put it into. 
Thyssen had got as much as he could put into a number of 
Colonial institutions—hospitals, and so on—where people had 
to take it, but it was not possible to persuade people to use it in 
the villages. 
Pirie: It always seemed to me that that was not very well 
handled. Ifsomeone writes to ask for protein, it is almost always 
a mistake just to send some. I invite such people to come to see 
it cooked. If we can show them how to handle it, then they 
go away convinced that it can be done. Otherwise, even able 
cooks become discouraged at their first efforts. Because itisan 
unusual thing to cook with, people won’t try, and that is so 
with yeast too. If you make these patties with banana in them 
and so on, then people eat it. That is what Thyssen failed to 
do. 
Wright: He tried to use it in biscuits and in bread. He 
certainly tried a number of different vehicles for it, but none 
of them was ultimately taken up anywhere. So far as I know, 
the plant is not producing at all now; it has even, I think, been 
dismantled. 
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