FUR-SEAL HERD OF ALASKA. 137 



Williams is not iii favor of the company appointing the school- 

 teachers and physicians. Neither was Mr. Goff. In case the Gov- 

 ernment should appomt physicians next year I would like to have 

 the job. I should give up any position I had m order to accept any 

 such appomtment. Wouldn't I like to show Tmgle I could get there 

 whether he wanted me to or not However, after a while, when Con- 

 gress meets, if you have the opportunity, I would be grateful for any 

 effort you might make to obtain for me an appointment as physician 

 at one of the Indian agencies. I have applied at all the steamship 

 offices, but there seems but little likelihood of my obtainmg anything 

 to do. Mrs. Lutz sends cordial and kindest regards to Mrs. Elliott, 

 My little Mary is quite a large gu'l now, and is growing nicer all the 

 time. 



Very truly, your friend, C. A. Lutz. 



Committee on Expenditures in the 



Department of Commerce and Labor, 



House of Representatives, 



Wednesday, April 24, 1912. 

 The committee met at 10 o'clock a. m., Hon. John H. Rothermel (chairman; pre- 

 siding. 



JOHN HAY IS informed BY HON. JOHN A. KASSON OF THE SUBORNATION OF THE 

 department of STATE BY THE LESSEES OP THE SEAL ISLANDS. 1890-1891. 



[Statement of Henry W. Elliott.] 



The Chairman. .Vll right then. I suppose it is the sense of the committee that tiie 

 statement shall go in? 



Mr. Patton. I have no objection. 



The Chairman. Tiien it is so ordered. 



Washington, May 12, 190-3. 



Dear Col. Hay: I do not know why the inclosed is sent to me. except for my 

 sympathy with Elliott in the matter of the Alaskan seals. Nor do I know what to 

 do with it except to place it at your disposition to decide if there is wisdom in his 

 suggestion. 



Very faithfully, yours, Kasson. 



(Given to me by Mr. Hay, in Department of State, June 20, 1903, 11.40 a. m. — 

 H. W. E.) 



Lakewood, Ohio, May 10, 190-3. 



My Dear Mr. Kas.son: In packing away a lot of papers to-day I came upon those 

 minutes of the interview which took place between Sir Julian and myself in April, 

 1891. You suggested that I put them into writing after I had recited them to you 

 in your residence, December 10. 1901. I inclose a copy of them. 



Reading them over, the thought occurs to me that the desperate condition of affairs 

 on the seal islands to-day warrants Sir Michael in doing exactly what Sir Julian did 

 in 1891. He can override the Canadians and agree upon a modus vivendi for 1904, 

 just as Sir Julian did for 1891. 



Sir Julian took this action solely on the strength of his belief in the truth of my 

 represention and report of 1890. Sir Michael can have not only all of this ground, 

 but the important additional data which I have placed in Mr. Hay's hands. 



I had to go as a stranger, personally, to Sir Julian in 1891. on account of Mr. Blaine's 

 "infirmity" of purpose. Mr. Hay can go to Sir Michael with vastly greater effect 

 and tact than I went to Sir Julian. He can take these authentic records, illustrations, 

 facts, and fig\ires which I have given him recently and lay them with great emphasis 

 before the British ambassador. 



Something must be done this summer and before Congress meets. Otherwise, if 

 naught comes from the State Department, the pending seal bill, now lying in the 

 Senate Foreign Relations Committee, will be passed in short order, as a measure 

 absolutely necessary to save the fur-seal species of Alaska from complete extinction. 



