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quence of discussions between State and the agencies until they finally 

 agree upon U.S. policy guidelines as a response to the items on the 

 agenda. By much the same mechanism a delegation is chosen, there 

 are nominations made and the State Department consults with the 

 agencies and finally it is the responsibility of the Department of State 

 to say these are the guidelines of U.S. policy and this is the delegation 

 that has been appointed by the Secretary of State to this intergovern- 

 mental commission. 



I was appointed chairman of the U.S. delegation to the Intergov- 

 ernmental Commission. I met in Washington with the members of 

 the delegation appointed by the Secretary of State. 



Mr. Frelinghtjtsen. How many are there ? 



Mr. Froscpi. There were 15 members. 



Mr. Frelinghuysen. Are you also members of this interagency com- 

 mittee that reports to State? How long does this process of making 

 your mind up take ? I would think it would take 3 years. 



Mr. Frosch. It took in this case about 6 weeks. 



Mr. FRELiNGHUYSEisr. You are not on the interagency committee 

 that makes the original recommendations to the State Department? 

 They have to gather the responses to those recommendations and then 

 feed them back in a single position paper to you ? 



Mr. Frosch. I was not a member of this committee but a number of 

 the members of the delegation were members of the committee. In fact, 

 when we sat down as a delegation, with the papers, essentially every- 

 one who had been responsible for developing a position was present in 

 the room either as a member of the delegation or a representative of the 

 State Department or some agency. As a delegation, we discussed these 

 fully. We had an opportunity to argue about some of the policy mat- 

 ters, some of them were changed, most of them were not because we 

 generally agreed with these policy statements. Wlien the delegation 

 went to Paris we had a set of policy guidelines item by item which we 

 were able to use, essentially as reminders of the policy agreements that 

 we had made before we left. 



Within these policy guidelines I had authority from the Secretary 

 of State to respond to anything else that came up at the meeting with- 

 in my own judgment but I was urged that if I thought something was 

 going beyond policy agreements or might cause a special problem 

 to consult either with our Ambassador in Paris, Ambassador Bohlen, 

 or by cable or by telephone with the Department of State back here. 

 On two occasions I actually did so because I found myself faced with 

 problems which I though might well have implications that were be- 

 yond things that I knew. 



I was able to make a phone call or send a cable and get immediate 

 assistance and an answer to my question. It all went rather smoothly, I 

 must say, although a good many of the discussions were fairly intricate 

 and the problems are not simple. 



Mr. Frelinghuysen. I yield to Mr. Fraser. 



Mr. Fraser. Just one question. When you checked from Paris with 

 Washington, from whom did you get the clearance? 



Mr. Frosch. I checked with Mr. David Popper who is the Deputy 

 Assistant Secretary of State for International Organizations. At the 

 time I checked with him he was acting assistant secretary for that 

 purpose, Mr. Sisco being out of town. 



