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to ref)resent the United States. I received my instructions from the 

 Deputy Assistant Secretary of State 



Mr. Fascell. I recognize that. Every international delegate would 

 get his instructions from the Secretary of State. 



Mr. Frosch. But the instructions that I received were those gen- 

 erated by the mechanism of the subcommittee reporting to the Com- 

 mittee on International Policy in the Marine Sciences. 



Mr. Fascell. Now we have gone through that hurdle. 



Mr. Frelinghtjysen. I don't know whether we have gone over the 

 hurdle I raised or not. I have almost lost track of my question during 

 this exploration of the organization chart. What is the group that re- 

 ports to Mr. Pollack ? This nameless subcommittee ? 



Mr. Frosoh. We are still calling it PIPICO — Panel on Interna- 

 tional Programs and International Cooperative Organization. 



Mr. Frelinghuysen. Maybe this whole discussion should have been 

 in executive session. 



Mr. Fascell. Have you finished ? I would like to continue with what 

 I was after. 



Mr. Frelinghuysen. I am certainly not through but by all 

 means 



Mr. Fascell. Go ahead. 



Mr. Frelinghuysen. You are pursuing a thought. 



Mr. Fascell. What I am trying to find out now is, was this standard 

 operating procedure, with respect to arriving at a position, this actu- 

 ally followed with respect to the position that you arrived at on these 

 resolutions and that you are presenting here today ? 



Mr. Frosch. Yes. 



You are asking with regard to these resolutions as opposed to tlie 

 position with regard to the Commission ? 



Mr. Fascell. I am asking with regard to your position on the matter 

 on which you are testifying today. 



Mr. Frosch. You see we went off into a disgression from the resolu- 

 tions discussing the Intergovernmental Commission. That is a sepa- 

 rate matter. With regard to my testimony here today on the resolution, 

 I am appearing as Assistant Secretary of the Navy and my position 

 was arrived at as a Navy position. 



Mr. Fascell. Does the same subcommittee which attempts to co- 

 ordinate and formulate U.S. interagency position for international 

 affairs try to do it for purely domestic positions, which is what you 

 are doing here today ? 



Mr. Frosch. No. 



Mr. Fascell. There is no interagency committee then with respect 

 to purely domestic position ? 



Mr. Frosch. There are committees which are under the National 

 Council, but that is a separate committee mechanism. 



Mr. Fascell. I am talking about these resohitions or any other simi- 

 lar position so presented in the Congress of the United States, for ex- 

 ample, that deal with oceanography or other related subjects. 



Mr. Frosch. These resolutions deal with international problems. So 

 the Committee on International Policy in the Marine Sciences has been 

 coordinating agency positions on this. 



Mr. Fascell. And all the agencies agreed to the same position ? 



