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These details will be worked out during the next 2 months, and 

 although it is presumptions on my part to forecast when the Presi- 

 dent will transmit a proposal to the Congress, it is ray guess that 

 this will be transmitted in January. 



I feel very sure that there will be consultation with representatives 

 of the States prior to that time to determine what makes sense. 



Remember, now, we are talking planning grants and these are 

 something perhaps on the order of several hundred thousand dollars 

 to each State. These are not operating land grants. These are not land 

 acquisition grants which obviously are going to be in order later. 



Dr. Knauss. I think I should also add that there has been legislation 

 on coastal zone authorities, introduced in the Senate by Senator 

 Magnuson and although I don't have a copy of that bill with me and 

 I don't recall details, I do believe it makes specific provisions for 

 planning grants. There is also legislation that may be introduced 

 by Mr. Lennon's committee which has rather specific references to the 

 form of the grant. 



Dr. Wenk. If there are no other questions, let me say on tlie part of 

 this panel, the three of us, how much we appreciate your attention 

 and interest. And I Imow I can speak for my colleagues here in saying 

 that what you heard this morning could not have been done without 

 your help prior to this meeting. 



Thank you very much. 



Mr. Clingan. I would like to call for Panel No. 2, if I may. "The 

 ^eed and Nature of Land Use Regulation," and introduce to you 

 Dr. David A. Adams, of Wilmington, N.C.. formerly of the National 

 Council on Marine Resources and Engineering Development. 



Panel 2 — The Need and Nature of Laxd T7se Regulation 



moderator 



Dr. David A. Adams, National Council on Marine Resources and 

 Engineering Development. 



panelists 



John R. Quarles, assistant to Tender Secretary for Environmental 

 Planning; Dr. Thomas L. Linton, North Carolina Department of 

 Conservation and Development: and Roy T. Sessums, Freeport 

 Sulphur Co., New Orleans, La. 



Mr. Adams. The concept of management involves the ability of 

 manipulating the resource concerned, and manipulation involves 

 some_ means of controllino- and regulating the use of that resoui'ce. 



This panel is going to discuss the nature and need of such regulation 

 over coastal zone resources. 



Our first panelist, the Honorable Boyd Gibbons, was unable to be 

 here with us, and is being replaced by John R. Quarles, assistant to 

 the Under Secretary for Environmental Planning of the Department 

 of the Interior. 



Mr. Quarles is a resident of Massachusetts, did his bachelor's work 

 at Yale, with a LL.B. in Harvard Law School in 1961, and his present 

 position in the Department of the Interior is that among many of 

 the environmental problems that he is concerned with, he represents 



