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Thank you. 



Dr. Adams. Thank you, Mr. Sessums. 



The three presentations that you have heard, although somewhat 

 parallel in approach, contain enough divergence I think to stimulate 

 some comments and questions from the groujp. 



Do you have some questions ? 



Dr. Hekbert Frolajstder. Dr. Herbert Frolander from Oregon State. 



I would like to refer to the comments made by the first speaker 

 relative to recreational uses. 



There are many taxes attached to use of these recreational places, 

 thus I might add a plea for the 99.99 percent of the population of the 

 United States. The plea would be that not only there be recreational 

 areas provided with all the things that they entail, but that these 

 recreational areas be financially accessible to the vast public. 



There is quite a difference between being accessible and being finan- 

 cially accessible for the families who wish to visit and utilize these 

 areas. 



Dr. Adams. Could you amplify a little bit more on what you mean by 

 "accessible'' and "financially accessible," how you would go about mak- 

 ing these financially accessible ? 



Dr. Frolaxder. There are some areas that are set aside, and are 

 not financially accessible to the vast majority. I am talking about the 

 vast number of families who are going to the coast and would like to 

 visit and picnic and enjoy the seashore recreation and cannot stand 

 the tariff developed in many areas. 



I shudder to think today of the effort that would be involved in, for 

 example, trying to set aside a National Yellowstone Park. 



Dr. Adams. Thank you. 



Do you wish to comment on that ? 



Mr. QxjARLES. I will not comment at any great length, other than 

 to state my agreement with the point made. 



I think I might refer to the action taken by Secretary Hickel in 

 striving to prepare plans for the Gateway National Recreation Area in 

 New York City, which would, if successful, put large recreational 

 areas within a subway ride of people who are among those most lack- 

 ing in recreational opportunities. 



This need is very great. It is very staggering to consider how diffi- 

 cult it would be to create a Yellowstone today. The only follow-up to 

 that proposition is how difficult it will be to do it tomorrow. 



We cannot set aside huge tracts like that today, but we can set aside 

 some. I truly feel that we must do so. 



Dr. Adams Are there any other questions ? 



Dr. Ltle St. Amant. My name is St. Amant. I am the assistant 

 director of the Louisiana Wildlife and Fisheries Commission. 



I don't really have a question. I would like to make a comment. 



I would like to both agree and disagree with my colleague. Dr. Ses- 

 sums of Louisiana. 



Louisiana finds itself in a peculiar position, in that it probably has 

 the greatest amount of industrial and multiple use of its coast of any 

 State in the Union. 



There was a fi.gure given here earlier about the number of oil wells 

 on the coast. I don't know whether it was accurate or not. My recent 

 figures indicate that Louisiana has about 13,000 active wells off the 



