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have to decide how far to ^o. We liave to decide, for; example, v.diy, if 

 we extend too far, we lose the ori (jinal problem. 



Ttike the San Francisco Bay area, for example, ^vl)ere I have some 

 familiarity. If yon start talkin.o- in the jnanao-ement of that area all 

 the problems of the community and developments and get clear back 

 to the Walnnt Hills behind the mountains, in such a large area you 

 lose the original problem that motivated you. 



_ On the other hand, if you don't take in enough area, then you ob- 

 viously are not taking into account all the factors that affect the zone. 



So any division we make is gohng to be artificial and unsatisfactory 

 from one point of view or another, and yet there is a logic to organiz- 

 ing first the lower level on what I would call the natural unit. I know 

 that the plan is for the State of California to be involved, as the Vice 

 President announced, that initially they will make grants to the State 

 of California, that 1,100 miles of oceanfront is going to have some 

 activity. 



So will the State of New Ham]')shire, with 11 miles of oceanfront. 

 I suspect within the State of California w^e would find it reasonable 

 and proper to develop subunits which focus on a particular ecological, 

 natural system, and I suspect that in the New Hampshire areathey 

 wnll find it extremely useful to get together with a neighboring State 

 and focus on the natural system that they deal with which obviously 

 is very much related with what goes on in Maine. 



In any event, that forms a focus for several kinds of activitv : First, 

 it forms a focus for what seems to be emer.o:ing, a new political con- 

 stituency, and ecological constituency that sweeps across political 

 and economic boundaries, and has no concern for it. 



For the people who care, w^ho came together and say, "We care about 

 this ]:>articular territorj^," it forms a natural basis for the devolpment 

 of laboratories and for the development of data gathering systems, for 

 data banks, for simulations, for economic and ecological studies, and 

 the interactions of them. 



V7hen I spoke earlier of the conflict between these uses I meant the 

 conflict in the sense that the private users and private economies see 

 it and they see the ecological questions as being analog^ous. I am also 

 taking into account that when you try to take a global view of it. vou 

 discover you have grand phrases but you have no basis for real decision- 

 making. 



We haven't learned how ^-o do it on a local basis. This is what I 

 meant by the conflict. But this becomes a place in wdiich we can get all 

 the facts and begin to ask what is the impact of our decisionmakino;. 

 T'hat has to be funded by someone and this initial start, which calls 

 for a joint funding by the States and the Federal Government, is 

 probably as good a way to start as any. 



Now the activities of all of these coastal zone management works 

 clearly have to be contrasted and have to be studied, have to be com- 

 pared, what is done in one region has to be transferred to another 

 region; if it doesn't occur naturally there should be someone to en- 

 courage it. Some regions will be more diligent than others. There will 

 be need to take action more swiftly in some areas than perhaps the 

 States want to go. 



As a result of all that, there is going to have to be some place in 

 Washington that is concerned with tliat question. That organization 



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