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Mr. Bauer. I mean all hydrobiology. For example, the Office of 

 Naval Kesearch has hydrobiology and the Atomic Energy Commis- 

 sion does. 



Mr. Wakelin. Indeed. These interests are represented through 

 the Office of Naval Kesearch and Dr. Wallen of the AEG. 



We have no specific committee or group under the ICO with a parti- 

 cular interest in hydrobiology as such. 



Mr. Bauer. Don't you feel it would be advisable to have such a 

 group ? I am talking now from the point of view of the motivation 

 of Mr. McKernan as the head of the Bureau of Fisheries. 



You have basic biology and everything else, and it seems to me the 

 ICO should coordinate those efforts. 



Mr. Wakelin. Yes. 



Mr. Bauer. Now, the next question is on the budget review. Dur- 

 ing the previous administration you have had the preparation for 

 the budget, and during the current administration, the change in the 

 budget. How did you go about getting the budget review ? 



Mr. Wakeolin. The budget review for 1962 was a lengthy process of 

 interagency support within the ICO, starting last June of 1961. 



Then, as each of the agencies' budgets, and each of the problem 

 areas in research and surveys and training, personnel, and facilities 

 was brought forward as a result of each panel's investigation into these 

 particular areas, the budget was assembled as a total document, using 

 each of the components that I have just described as working elements 

 as part of the program. 



Then the Inter- Agency Committee on Oceanography presented this 

 to the Federal Council and the Federal Council approved these budget 

 items. At the same time, the representatives of each of the agencies 

 returned to his own department and supported their parts of the pro- 

 gram to their own secretaries. This brings us up to about the middle 

 of December, when the final budget of the last administration was 

 fully assembled, 



Mr. Bauer. In other words, the Secretary of each department really 

 decided on whether or not your recommendations as to the budget 

 in his department would be presented to the President. 



Mr. Wakelin. Yes, sir. 



Mr. Bauer. In the review you had with the budgets, did you have 

 any outside experts ? 



Mr. Wakelin. Yes. We had an observer from the Bureau of the 

 Budget, Mr. Wendell Pigman. We had another review, a separate 

 review of our program by Dr. Spilhaus representing the National 

 Academy of Sciences on the Committee on Oceanography; and then 

 Mr. Vetter quite often sits in with Dr. Spilhaus as a member of the 

 National Academy's Committee. 



Mr. Bauer. Is it the intention of the ICO to have the National 

 Academy Committee on Oceanography currently scan the budget 

 proposals ? 



Mr. Wakelin._ No. I think as far as scanning the budget proposals 

 is concerned, their interest is in finding out whether proper emphasis 

 on a program basis is introduced into the program, whether there is 

 adequate support for training facilities and adequate support for ship 

 construction and basic research. 



