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It would be my understanding that tliey have general authority which 

 would cover this. This would be subject to check. 



Mr. Bauer. Will the Congressman yield ? GAO does not have au- 

 thority to examine grants. Under the public law, any contracting 

 agency is authorized to give grants. They are empowered to examine 

 contracts but not grants. 



Mr. DiNGELL. I certainly think so. I think this committee would 

 be happy to keep the record open for 10 days or so after closing 

 so you will be able to correct anything you feel you have not covered 

 appropriately in your discussion this morning. 



Does it appear desirable, if this authority is lacking at this time, 

 to give GAO this authority for not only grants and so forth in this 

 field, but in other fields, too ? 



Mr. Vanik. In all fields. 



Mr. Hughes. I think there is a real problem of intergovernmental 

 relations here at some point, if you are talking about State and local 

 matters for instance. I would rather not even try to respond to that. 



Mr. DiNGELL. Let's talk about grants in the scientific field. It would 

 appear to be very desirable there; would it not? 



Mr. Hughes. We probably would have some problems of relation- 

 ships with some of the schools and scientific agencies here, also. 



Mr. Dingell. It would appear useful at least to protect the tax- 

 payers. 



Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



Mr. Miller. Mr. Hughes, I want to thank you. We look forward 

 to any other comment you may have. 



The committee will stand adjourned until 10 o'clock tomorrow 

 morning. 



(Whereupon, at 12 :32 p.m., the subcommittee adjourned to recon- 

 vene at 10 a.m., Tuesday, June 20, 1961.) 



