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attention, which is one of the points I made with respect to a change 

 in the proposed legislation. 



Mr. DiNGELL. I intended to discuss that with you, too, because 

 it is my experience that when you set up a committee here on the Hill, 

 or a group to do something on any level, if you do not have staff people 

 to carry it out, it falls flat on its face. Is that correct ? 



Professor Lewis. That is very correct, sir. 



Mr. DiNGEUL. Because committee members by and large do not have 

 the time or the inclination or the ability or the dedication that is 

 usually required to carry out a staff level approach, in view of the 

 many other things that they have to do. Am I correct on that? 



Professor Lewis. You are, sir. 



I would hesitate to criticize the administratively established com- 

 mittee, but I would suggest that perhaps the best approach to evaluat- 

 ing how effective it may be is to raise the question of how manj^ meet- 

 ings they have, and the subjects discussed at those meetings. 



Mr. DiNGELL. I would like to have the staff get that. 



Do you think it would be possible for us to get the schedule of 

 meetings, the subjects discussed, and the number of staff members and 

 the duties that the staff members have assigned, as well as other duties 

 that the staff members might have ? Do you think we could get that? 



Mr. J^IILLER. I think we could make a very comprehensive request 

 and include all those. 



(The following was furnished for insertion.) 



Dates of Meetings of the ICO, and Its Working Panels 



January 5 : Ships Panel. 



January 10 : ICO. 



January 16 : National Oceanographic Data Center Advisory Board. 



January 18 : Survey Panel.^ 



January 26 : ICO. 



January 27 : CCO. 



February 6 : Ships Panel. 



February 7 : ICO. 



February 12 : National Oceanographic Data Center Advisory Board. 



February 20 : Research Panel. 



February 21 : Research Panel. 



March 10 : National Oceanographic Data Center Advisory Board. 



March 13 : Instrumentation and Facilities Panel. 



March 14: CCO. 



March 23 : Working Group. 



April 10 : Instrumentation and Facilities Panel. 



April 11 : CCO. 



April 14 : ICO StaflE—BuBud— Beach Erosion Board. 



April 18 : Training Panel. 



April 26 : Research Panel. 



April 27 : ICO— NASCO. 



May 2 : Training Panel. 



May 4 : Smithsonian Institution — BuBud — ICO StafE. 



May 5 : Survey Panel. ' 



May 8 : ICO. 



May 10 : Hydro, PHS, BOF, BBB, ICO Staff, Meeting. 



May 11 : ICO. 



May 12 : National Oceanographic Data Center Advisory Board. 



June 2 : Instrumentation and Facilities Panel. 



June 14 : CCO. 



June 14 : Instrumentation and Facilities Panel. 



' Survey Panel met weeklj' dairinjr October, November, December of 1960. 



