OCEAlsTOGRAPHY 19G1 — PHASE 3 239 



Mr. Vanik. I would just like to ask: Is your employer engagred in 

 a research program in which there would be groat public interest 'i< 

 Are there portions of your research you are engaged in now that 

 might have value to the Government or to the public, over and beyond 

 your employer's needs or requirements ? 



Dr. Olson. Your question is going to be a bit difficult to answer 

 because of the specialized nature of the group that I am in. The 

 Advanced Military Systems Group 



Mr. MiLLEK. This is highly secret work. 



Mr. Vanik. The question I was leading up to is whether or not we 

 take advantage of all of the available resources in private corporation 

 research that we should. 



Do you feel the governmental agencies involved are using, to the 

 degree that they should, the availability of private research? I am 

 not talking about research under Government contract : I am talking 

 about your own research. 



Dr. Olson. I have not noticed anything wrong in that line. 



Mr. Vanik. Is there an effort, or an adequate effort, to marshal 

 the information ? Let me put it that way. 



Dr. Olson. I am afraid I really cannot answer that. 



Mr. Vanik. Earlier witnesses have testified that in their research 

 activity there were quantities of research that would have great public 

 value which were never called for, never requested, by the governmen- 

 tal agencies involved. My question is whether or not, in your opin- 

 ion, there is a sufficient marshaling of this information or gathering of 

 this information by the governmental agencies involved, as they are 

 now constituted. 



Dr. Olson. I think this is largely a personal matter. Now, I hap- 

 pen to be acquainted with quite a few people in the governmental agen- 

 cies, and we talk. And if there is anything that they need, well, of 

 course, we will give it to them. I cannot recall any specific example, 

 but that has been done. 



Mr. Vanik. Is this information documented in such a way that it 

 can be preserved ? 



Dr. Olson. I do not think any of this information that industry 

 might have, let us say that might be of oceanographic value — ^that 

 information, I would guess, would deal mostly with various types of 

 instrumentation that might be of some value in oceanography. That 

 is about all that I can think of — or with various types of computers. 



I am afraid that I will just have to beg off, because either I do not 

 understand your question fully or I have just had too little experience 

 in this particular matter. 



Mr. Miller. Thank you very much, Dr. Olson. We appreciate 

 your coming here. 



There is a statement by J. Monroe Sullivan, of the Pacific Ameri- 

 can Steamship Co., that will be filed for the record at this point. 



(The statement of J. Monroe Sullivan follows :) 



STATESfENT OF J. MONROE SnXI,IVAW, ViCE PRESIDENT, PACIFIC AMERICAN STEAM- 

 SHIP Association, June 21, 1061 



Mr. Chairman, my name is J. Monroe Sullivan. I am vice president of the 

 Pacific American Steamship Association, which is a trade association represent- 

 ing a large majority of the dry cargo vessels in the domestic and foreign trades 

 serving our commerce from the Pacific coast. 



