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done, but in our conference in August we intend to expand that and 

 develop it further. 



Mr. Bauek. Admiral, with respect to the TENOC program, of 

 which I have given you a copy, there, if you will turn to pages 81 

 and 82, I notice that you are the coordinator of effort of the Navy in 

 the TENOC program in the field of instrumentation. Is that correct ? 



Admiral Stephaist. Yes, sir. 



Mr. Bauer. Now, under your item 2 on page 2 of the shipborne 

 system, you put a speed of 12 knots as the indicated speed of the ship 

 underway. Why do you not make it higher? Is it not possible to 

 design instrumentation to fit modern freighter operation or passenger 

 ships or vessels ? Twelve knots seems rather slow, does it not ? 



Admiral Stephan. I am inclined to agree with you. I think it 

 ought to be higher. I think this is something that we will develop 

 at the instrument conference. I think as we work more with industry 

 we will find that we can move higher. But I agree 12 knots is going 

 to make it difficult for a lot of ships to help us without interfering 

 with their other mission. 



Mr. Batter. It seems to me that that would be particularly true with 

 respect to ships of opportunity, would it not ? 



Admiral Stephan. Yes ; I agree. 



Mr. Bauer. But you would not want to have a freighter or a pas- 

 senger ship slow down. 



Admiral Stephan. This would reduce the amount of help we could 

 get, if this was the speed at which the data had to be collected. 



Mr. Bauer. The next question is with reference to the data center. 



Will your data center accumulate the data that was collected during 

 the IGY ? Has that question been resolved ? 



Admiral Stephan. I believe that has not been resolved. I believe 

 that we will eventually have the data. I think we are beginning to get 

 it now. We are still having growing problems at the data center, and 

 at the present time I think we are moving as rapidly as we can with 

 the staff. We are having difficulty in getting the right people on 

 board. 



Mr. Bauer. I raise the question because when I was at Texas 

 A. & M. several years ago they were getting an input of data from the 

 East, Russia and so on. 



Admiral Stephan. Yes, sir. 



Mr. Bauer. And that would be your only input of data transmitted 

 irom the East, would it not ? 



Admiral Stephan. Well, it would certainly be one of the principal 

 ones. We hope, through international arrangements, to get any data 

 that we can from any source that we can. 



Mr. Bauer. Would there be any objection, do you think, on the 

 part of the Communist bloc, we will say, to supplying data to a data 

 center which is run by the military? I am just trying to anticipate 

 roadblocks. 



Admiral Stephan. I do not know the answer, Mr. Bauer. 



Mr. Bauer. I mean: Do you exchange data with Moscow, for 

 example ? 



Admiral Stephan. I think we would exchange data with anybody 

 in order to improve our worldwide information. Now, in the data 

 center we are going to have classification problems. But generally 



