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Even if it is handleid properiy, it will not solve this problem unless 

 the scientific community studies it and develops the operational con- 

 cepts and designs of hardware, and that will not do it unless industiy 

 gets into the act and develops the equipment, whether it be military 

 equipment or fishing equipment or mining equipment, to capitalize 

 on what we know. 



Mr. Vanik. Your charts seem to make a good case for the bill. 



Admiral Stepiian. Well, there is no argument on my part. I am 

 in complete support, Mr. Chairman, with the objectives of the bill. 

 I believe this is the position expressed in the letter by the Bureau of 

 the Budget. They are in complete accord with the objectives. 



This gives a rough picture of the coordination that is necessary. 

 These are the principal agencies of Government, Atomic Energy, Na- 

 tional Science Foundation ; Health, Education, and Welfare ; Defense ; 

 Interior ; Commerce ; and Treasury. These are the agencies which the 

 ICO attempts to coordinate in the oceanographic program. 



These are the suhagencies within them that have to be coordinated. 

 I am sure there are others that are not on tliis chart, but it gives you 

 some idea of the cooperative aspect of the program. 



These are helpful to us in trying to keep our part in this thing fully 

 coordinated with the other agencies that are involved. 



Mr. Vanik. Is it possible, Admiral, that we could have that reduced 

 in size and make it part of the report ? 



Admiral Stephan. We will do that, Mr. Chairman, and send them 

 to you, sir. 



Mr. Vanik. Thank you very much. 



(The charts referred to above are as follows :) 



