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You liave had experience in the hydrographic area with the coordi- 

 nating function. 



Admiral Stephan. I certainly feel that tlie existing ICO needs a 

 staff. I think that actually as the Hydrographic Office we have tried 

 to furnish a staff for the ICO. Captain Hendrix of my office, and 

 others — the job they have been doing in putting together the national 

 instrumentation requirement has been practically as a staff for the 

 ICO. There is no question in my mind that they need a staff. 



Mr. Morse. Without resorting to the bureaucratic niceties which 

 guide us all, what kind of contribution has AEC, for example, made 

 to the effort? AEC, I notice, was one of the agencies that are co- 

 ordinating. How much active interest has there been on the part of 

 the Atomic Energy Commission to the efforts in this field ? 



Admiral Stephan. I honestly feel that all of the agencies that have 

 been involved have contributed. In putting together tlie instrument 

 requirements,we have sent numerous letters. We have gotten replies. 

 They have expressed their requirements. And I honestly feel that 

 the cooperation among the agencies involved has been excellent. 



We have had tremendous help from other agencies. Captain Plen- 

 drix has been working with people from each of these agencies. They 

 have been available. They have answered the questions. They have 

 made a contribution. We have not done it all alone. We have had 

 a lot of help in doing it. 



Mr. Morse. Do you see any place for a single agency oceanographic 

 activity? 



Admiral Stephan, That is a difficult question. I am certainly not 

 an expert on this subject. But I have the feeling that for every prob- 

 lem that it solved, it might add additional problems. I think this 

 might get very complicated. 



Mr. Morse. To a greater extent, or to any greater extent, than the 

 problems that have been created by the establishment of the National 

 Aeronautics and Space Agency? 



Admiral Stephan. I think the only answer I can give you is: I 

 do not know, Mr. Morse. I do not know whether it will. 



Mr. Morse. I have read the bill. I think we are dealing with a 

 highly important subject which bids well for the future of this Na- 

 tion and this world. I just have some apprehensions as to whether 

 or not this can be properly exploited, properly advanced, in the en- 

 tire field, by the council concept, with coordination among several 

 agencies. 



Thank you. Admiral. 



Mr. Vanik. Admiral, we certainly appreciate your frank and full 

 testimony this morning. I know that every member of the committee 

 appreciates the fine work and leadership you have provided in your 

 office. 



Thank you very much. 



Admiral Stephan, Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



Mr. Vanik. The next witness is Rear Admiral Coates, Chief of 

 Naval Research. 



I understand. Admiral, you have with you Dr, Galler and Dr. 

 Maxwell and Miss Pruitt, 



