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AYorking group have met together I would say at least six times this 

 calendar year. 



Mr. Vanik. During the calendar year ? 



Dr. Maxwell,. Yes, sir. 



Mr. Vaxik. Let me get this straight, now. Let us go back to, say, 

 fiscal 1961, or since last July 1. How many times has the Policy 

 Board met since July 1, 1960 ? 



Dr. Maxwell. I believe the Policy Board has met about three times. 

 But it has a working group, and the working group has met many 

 more times. 



Mr. Vanik. And how many times has the working group met ? 



Dr. Maxwell. I can only give you an approximate answer for that 

 period, and I would say it has met at least a dozen times. 



Mr. Vanik. a dozen times in this same period ? 



Dr. Maxwell. Yes, sir. 



Mr. Vanik:. Now, let me ask this further question: Who are the 

 members of the working group ? Could you identify the usual mem- 

 bers of the so-called working group ? 



Dr. Maxwell. I do not have a list of these members on hand. I can 

 supply this for the record. In general, Captain Ruble from the Office 

 of Naval Research, Captain Stephan and Commander Alexander for 

 the Chief of Naval Operations, Captain Fusselman from the Hydro- 

 graphic Office, Mr. Hanson from the Bureau of Weapons, Mr. Couper 

 and Commander Coil from the Bureau of Ships have attended the 

 meetings. 



(The following was furnished for insertion:) 



Working Group 



OF THE 



Navy Oceanographio Policy Board 



Oapt C. R. Stephan, Chairman ONO 



Comdr. R. J. Alexander, Executive Secretary ONO 



Mr. 0. Sandler BuNavWeps 



Comdr. J. Coil BuShips 



Cmdr. M. O. Johnson ONO 



Mr. F. Knoop BnY&D 



Capt. G. J. Dufner BuMed 



Oapt. M. F. Thompson ONO 



Capt. H. B. Ruble ONR 



Capt. R. D. Fusselman USNHO 



Mr. R. B. Abel Ex officio 



Mr. Vanik. Neither the working group nor the Policy Board has 

 any staff ? 



Dr. Maxwell. The working group actually acts as the staff for the 

 Policy Board. 



Mr. Vanik. All right. 



Mr. El Isworth, do you have any questions ? 



Mr. Ellsworth. No, thank you, Mr. Chairman. 



Mr. Dkewry. Admiral, just one thing. With reference to TENOC, 

 which is described as TENOC 1961 to 1970, a lO-year program, is it 

 contemplated that a year from now TENOC would be TENOC 1962 

 to 1971 ? 



I mean : Will it roll as time goes on, or is the present thinking that at 

 the end of the 10-year program you will have another 10-year pro- 

 gram? Will you keep flexible ? 



