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Dr. Spilhaus. I am sorry. As an oceanograplier, we always work 

 from the top down. 



Mr. Ellsworth. We enjoyed having you with us. 



Mr. Bauer. At this time, Mr. Chairman, I would like to introduce 

 Dr. Bronk's comments on the bill. 



Mr. Vanik. Without objection. Dr. Bronk's comments will be ad- 

 mitted into the record at this point. 



(The comments of Dr. Bronk, referred to above, folloAv:) 



National Academy of Sciences, 



Washington, B.C., May 28, 1961. 

 Hon. Herbert C. Bonner, 

 Committee on Merchant Marine and Fisheries, 

 House of Representatives, Washington, B.C. 



Dear Congressman Bonner: Sometime ago you were kind enough to send' 

 us copies of several bills that were before the Committee on Merchant Marine- 

 and Fisheries, including H.R. 4276, H.R. 4340, and H.J. Res. 234, all having to 

 do with the furtherance of research in the general field of oceanography and- 

 marine I'esources. These I made available to our committee on oceanography 

 so that they might have the opportunity to formulate comments for your con- 

 sideration if they wished. 



Inquiring into the developments that followed, I find that our committee ha& 

 not taken a position as a group on any of the bills in question, but that the- 

 comments and views of its members and staff have been made available to you 

 in ways that we hope have been helpful. 



You will appreciate, I know, that it is not practicable to convene a committee 

 like ours to consider an expression of views on each such bill as it comes to us. 

 We are glad, however, when individual members, or other qualified scientists^^ 

 as individuals, can be of use in discussing the issues with which your committee- 

 is dealing. I hope you will continue to feel free to call upon us for v\-hatever 

 assistance we are able to give. 

 Yours sincerely, 



DETLE\r W. Bkonk, President. 



Mr. Vanik. Thank you very much. Doctor. We are ahead of our 

 schedule, and we certainly appreciate your testimony and the testi- 

 mony of the witnesses that preceded you in this hearing. 



There being no further business before the committee, the commit- 

 tee will be adjourned until tomorrow morning. 



(The following was furnished for insertion by Carl H. Savit and. 

 Athelstan Spilhaus :) 



Western Geophysical Co., 

 Los Angeles, Calif., July 18, 1961. 

 Dr. Athelstan F. Spilhaus, 

 Institute of Technology, University of Minnesota, 

 Minneapolis, Minn. 



Dear Dr. Spilhaus : A transcript of your testimony before the Subcommittee- 

 on Oceanography of the House of Representatives on June 22 has just come to mjr 

 attention. It is with some interest that I read your comments concerning por- 

 tions of my testimony made several days previously. 



Please accept my apologies for any of my remarks which would lead you tO' 

 believe that I was implying that the oceanographic institutions consider research 

 cruises as an opportunity for a rest. I recognize and freely concede that ocean- 

 ographic cruises by the various institutions involve a great deal of very hard 

 work. 



The principal difference, to my mind, between the attitudes of research people- 

 and of commercial survey people is that research people approach a cruise with 

 pleasure and derive a great deal of personal satisfaction from seeking out and 

 discovering new Information. The work tends to be varied, very intense for given 

 periods, and slack for others. New lines of investigation can be opened up and 

 old ones abandoned as circumstances warrant. It is not surprising, therefore, 

 that I have received letters and post cards, as well as personal accounts, from, 



